Damn it, what a pain.
Sampsa
On 7 Feb 2015, at 20:53, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Across disks, all I can think of are logical name search lists.
$ define <logicalname> <dir 1>,<dir 2>
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Links across volumes? (FILE/ENTER won't work)
On 7 Feb 2015, at 13:53, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
On *NIX I'd use a symbolic link - what's the VMS solution?
You need to look into SET FILE/SYMLINK. I have to run out now. Later, if
nothing comes up, I'll put an example together for you.
HELP SET FILE/SYMLINK is of no use - how do I make a symbolic link of a directory, anybody?
sampsa
Across disks, all I can think of are logical name search lists.
$ define <logicalname> <dir 1>,<dir 2>
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Van: Sampsa Laine
Verzonden: zaterdag 7 februari 2015 16:59
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Links across volumes? (FILE/ENTER won't work)
On 7 Feb 2015, at 13:53, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
On *NIX I'd use a symbolic link - what's the VMS solution?
You need to look into SET FILE/SYMLINK. I have to run out now. Later, if
nothing comes up, I'll put an example together for you.
HELP SET FILE/SYMLINK is of no use - how do I make a symbolic link of a directory, anybody?
sampsa
Hello!
No problem. I happen to know that the problem it sent that off to, was
never really solved.
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
<jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
Ooops MacOS mail app is acting weird again. Somehow it has gone into a time warp and it is sending again old messages. Please disregard.
El 23/04/2014, a les 20:00, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> va escriure:
El 23/04/2014, a les 11.16, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> va :
I've been fixing some DECnet code in RSX, and I'm now looking for systems to check against.
What I'm testing is NFT/DAP access, and systems I'd like to test against is Ultrix-32, OSF-1, TOPS-20, RT-11, RSTS/E. Essentially anything not VMS or RSX. :-)
Do anyone have any such systems online on HECnet at the moment, which I can have file access to?
BITXT0: TOPS-20, USER=GUEST, PASSWORD=GUEST
BITXOT: RSTS/E, ACCOUNT=201,2, PASSWORD=GUESTGUEST
Additionally:
BITXT1: TOPS-10, USER=GUEST, PASSWORD=GUEST
I can put up a Ultrix-32 system if there is no other one available.
By the way, I didn't know there was DECNET for RT-11...
Do tou
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
On 7 Feb 2015, at 13:53, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
On *NIX I'd use a symbolic link - what's the VMS solution?
You need to look into SET FILE/SYMLINK. I have to run out now. Later, if
nothing comes up, I'll put an example together for you.
HELP SET FILE/SYMLINK is of no use - how do I make a symbolic link of a directory, anybody?
sampsa
Ooops MacOS mail app is acting weird again. Somehow it has gone into a time warp and it is sending again old messages. Please disregard.
El 23/04/2014, a les 20:00, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> va escriure:
El 23/04/2014, a les 11.16, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> va :
I've been fixing some DECnet code in RSX, and I'm now looking for systems to check against.
What I'm testing is NFT/DAP access, and systems I'd like to test against is Ultrix-32, OSF-1, TOPS-20, RT-11, RSTS/E. Essentially anything not VMS or RSX. :-)
Do anyone have any such systems online on HECnet at the moment, which I can have file access to?
BITXT0: TOPS-20, USER=GUEST, PASSWORD=GUEST
BITXOT: RSTS/E, ACCOUNT=201,2, PASSWORD=GUESTGUEST
Additionally:
BITXT1: TOPS-10, USER=GUEST, PASSWORD=GUEST
I can put up a Ultrix-32 system if there is no other one available.
By the way, I didn't know there was DECNET for RT-11...
Do tou
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
On 7 Feb 2015, at 13:53, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
On *NIX I'd use a symbolic link - what's the VMS solution?
You need to look into SET FILE/SYMLINK. I have to run out now. Later, if
nothing comes up, I'll put an example together for you.
Tried every variation of SET FILE/SYMLINK I could think of, nothing worked.
sampsa
Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes:
I just added a disk to solar, DKA100: and have created a directory =
called DKA100:[DECUSLIB] on it.
I want to link it into DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET] as =
DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET.DECUSLIB].
However:
$ SET FILE/ENTER=3DDKA0:[SYS0.DECNET]DECUSLIB.DIR;1 =
DKA100:[000000]DECUSLIB.DIR;1
%SET-E-ENTERR, error entering DKA100:[000000]DECUSLIB.DIR;1 as =
DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET]DECUSLIB.DIR;1
-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for =
operation
Here's what's in DKA100:
$ dir dka100:[000000]
Directory DKA100:[000000]
000000.DIR;1 0.50KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
BACKUP.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
BADBLK.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
BADLOG.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
BITMAP.SYS;1 5MB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
CONTIN.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
CORIMG.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
DECUSLIB.DIR;1 0.50KB 7-FEB-2015 00:27:23.74
INDEXF.SYS;1 2.03MB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
SECURITY.SYS;1 0.50KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
VOLSET.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
Total of 11 files, 7.03MB
This is explained in the OpenVMS File System Internal book. The files MUST
be on the same volume for the /ENTER to work. The actual file has a header
which resides in INDEXF.SYS in the MFD of that volume. A header is located
using the file ID. The file ID is stored in the <direcotry].DIR. When you
issue /ENTER, an entry, using the name you've specified, is place into the
directory specified; however, its file ID is set to the file you wish to be
linked with. This is why it cannot span volumes.
On *NIX I'd use a symbolic link - what's the VMS solution?
You need to look into SET FILE/SYMLINK. I have to run out now. Later, if
nothing comes up, I'll put an example together for you.
--
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I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
I just added a disk to solar, DKA100: and have created a directory called DKA100:[DECUSLIB] on it.
I want to link it into DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET] as DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET.DECUSLIB].
However:
$ SET FILE/ENTER=DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET]DECUSLIB.DIR;1 DKA100:[000000]DECUSLIB.DIR;1
%SET-E-ENTERR, error entering DKA100:[000000]DECUSLIB.DIR;1 as DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET]DECUSLIB.DIR;1
-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation
Here's what's in DKA100:
$ dir dka100:[000000]
Directory DKA100:[000000]
000000.DIR;1 0.50KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
BACKUP.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
BADBLK.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
BADLOG.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
BITMAP.SYS;1 5MB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
CONTIN.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
CORIMG.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
DECUSLIB.DIR;1 0.50KB 7-FEB-2015 00:27:23.74
INDEXF.SYS;1 2.03MB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
SECURITY.SYS;1 0.50KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
VOLSET.SYS;1 0KB 7-FEB-2015 00:26:49.44
Total of 11 files, 7.03MB
On *NIX I'd use a symbolic link - what's the VMS solution?
Should do. I never got around to building it and lost the files in an OS wipe.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 6, 2015, at 14:31, Jovan Trujillo <jovan.trujillo2 at gmail.com> wrote:
Oh cool! I had searched for VAXELN last year for research on the possibility of running realtime systems on virtual machines. VAXELN should be able to run on simh right?
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On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
It's on the decuslib archive.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 6, 2015, at 07:28, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Does anyone happen to have a copy of the VAXELN toolkit for VMS?
I'd love to play with writing some embedded VAX code in Pascal :)
sampsa
On Friday, February 06, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jovan Trujillo wrote:
Oh cool! I had searched for VAXELN last year for research on the possibility of
running realtime systems on virtual machines. VAXELN should be able to run
on simh right?
It should run fine. There is even a rtVAX1000 simulator (this was the MicroVAX II CPU with a less than full memory management implementation).
- Mark
