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by sampsa＠mac.com

Ah, that's because GORVAX is connected all over the place: NCP>tel gorvax show know circ Known Circuit Volatile Summary as of 13-AUG-2012 20:23:38 Circuit State Loopback Adjacent Name Routing Node QNA-0 on TCP-0-19 on 19.41 (SG1) TCP-0-2 on 2.1 (LEGATO) TCP-0-3 on 3.171 (NUK1C) TCP-0-59 on 59.58 (STUPI) TCP-0-6 on -starting Sampsa On 13 Aug 2012, at 20:22, Gregg Levine wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: But the mailing list is up! Al7amdulilah al rubb al 'alameen. Sampsa On 13 Aug 2012, at 05:40, Oleg Safiullin wrote: On 08/09/2012 07:02 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-08-09 09:05, Mark Benson wrote: On 8 Aug 2012, at 23:56, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-08-08 15:42, Bob Armstrong wrote: I notice that the bridge is down again this morning. Is it just me? Nope. I noticed that Psilo was down, but only now did I recheck and as psilo was back up, I restarted the bridge. I've restarted mine several times and I'm still not getting anything outside my LAN. :\ Hum. So psilo rebooted again a few hours ago... Restarted the bridge right now. Johnny bridge is down again :) -- NCP SHO ACT NOD Active nodes summary as of 13-AUG-12 04:38:59 Executor node = 1.13 (MIM) State = On, Identification = "RSX system at Update, Sweden" Remote Active Next Node State Links Delay Circuit Node 8.400 (GORVAX) 0 4 18.1 (GATE18) 0 4 18.101 (RENO) 0 4 52.555 (LABVAX) 0 4 52.556 (KUHAVX) 0 4 Hello! Well actually Sampsa he did see your machines, which tells something is working. However how many of the rest of us can not see anything else? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 10 months

Bridge down??

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: But the mailing list is up! Al7amdulilah al rubb al 'alameen. Sampsa On 13 Aug 2012, at 05:40, Oleg Safiullin wrote: On 08/09/2012 07:02 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-08-09 09:05, Mark Benson wrote: On 8 Aug 2012, at 23:56, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-08-08 15:42, Bob Armstrong wrote: I notice that the bridge is down again this morning. Is it just me? Nope. I noticed that Psilo was down, but only now did I recheck and as psilo was back up, I restarted the bridge. I've restarted mine several times and I'm still not getting anything outside my LAN. :\ Hum. So psilo rebooted again a few hours ago... Restarted the bridge right now. Johnny bridge is down again :) -- NCP SHO ACT NOD Active nodes summary as of 13-AUG-12 04:38:59 Executor node = 1.13 (MIM) State = On, Identification = "RSX system at Update, Sweden" Remote Active Next Node State Links Delay Circuit Node 8.400 (GORVAX) 0 4 18.1 (GATE18) 0 4 18.101 (RENO) 0 4 52.555 (LABVAX) 0 4 52.556 (KUHAVX) 0 4 Hello! Well actually Sampsa he did see your machines, which tells something is working. However how many of the rest of us can not see anything else? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 10 months

Bridge down??

by sampsa＠mac.com

But the mailing list is up! Al7amdulilah al rubb al 'alameen. Sampsa On 13 Aug 2012, at 05:40, Oleg Safiullin wrote: On 08/09/2012 07:02 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-08-09 09:05, Mark Benson wrote: On 8 Aug 2012, at 23:56, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-08-08 15:42, Bob Armstrong wrote: I notice that the bridge is down again this morning. Is it just me? Nope. I noticed that Psilo was down, but only now did I recheck and as psilo was back up, I restarted the bridge. I've restarted mine several times and I'm still not getting anything outside my LAN. :\ Hum. So psilo rebooted again a few hours ago... Restarted the bridge right now. Johnny bridge is down again :) -- NCP SHO ACT NOD Active nodes summary as of 13-AUG-12 04:38:59 Executor node = 1.13 (MIM) State = On, Identification = "RSX system at Update, Sweden" Remote Active Next Node State Links Delay Circuit Node 8.400 (GORVAX) 0 4 18.1 (GATE18) 0 4 18.101 (RENO) 0 4 52.555 (LABVAX) 0 4 52.556 (KUHAVX) 0 4

12 years, 10 months

Bridge down??

by form＠pdp-11.org.ru

On 08/09/2012 07:02 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-08-09 09:05, Mark Benson wrote: On 8 Aug 2012, at 23:56, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-08-08 15:42, Bob Armstrong wrote: I notice that the bridge is down again this morning. Is it just me? Nope. I noticed that Psilo was down, but only now did I recheck and as psilo was back up, I restarted the bridge. I've restarted mine several times and I'm still not getting anything outside my LAN. :\ Hum. So psilo rebooted again a few hours ago... Restarted the bridge right now. Johnny bridge is down again :) -- >NCP SHO ACT NOD Active nodes summary as of 13-AUG-12 04:38:59 Executor node = 1.13 (MIM) State = On, Identification = "RSX system at Update, Sweden" Remote Active Next Node State Links Delay Circuit Node 8.400 (GORVAX) 0 4 18.1 (GATE18) 0 4 18.101 (RENO) 0 4 52.555 (LABVAX) 0 4 52.556 (KUHAVX) 0 4 >

12 years, 10 months

Sweet, now I can make my Ubuntu boxes look like VMS :)

by sampsa＠mac.com

CDE has been open-sourced: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/09/cde_goes_opensource/

12 years, 10 months

Connectivity problems

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi guys, Anyone experiencing DECNET/HECNET connecting problems at the moment? I noticed that http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet.html is not currently responding. It might be the setup at this end, but I've tried most things although I do appear to have a link through to psilo.update.uu.se: 192.168.1.127 4711 4711 130.238.19.25 4711 3 0 Non-authoritative answer: psilo.update.uu.se canonical name = Psilocybe.update.uu.se. Name: Psilocybe.update.uu.se Address: 130.238.19.25 It could quite possibly be a problem at this end, given that SLAVE has not been up for a while... Regards, Mark

12 years, 10 months

Is the bridge down again?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Can't get seem to connect to update.. Sampsa

12 years, 11 months

getting the bridge working on OpenBSD

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

Yeah, I think I had an older copy. Pulled the latest down and it built cleanly other than the MAX redefinition warning and the "openbsd thinks you're a moron for using strcpy()" warning. All appears well as Sampsa can talk to HECnet via a bridge to me tunneled over OpenVPN. Ugly, but functional. :) -brian On 8/10/2012 6:54 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Brian, could you verify that you have the latest version? I did some work to try and get rid of warnings a while back, and even though I'm sure some issues might be because of 64 bit issues, I would have expected some of the warnings you reported to have been fixed already... Johnny On 2012-08-09 21:00, Brian Hechinger wrote: I'm trying to get the bridge built on OpenBSD 5.1 64-bit but it keep segfaulting. Anyone ever get this working? # cc -O2 -Wall -o bridge bridge.c -lpcap bridge.c:65:1: warning: "MAX" redefined In file included from /usr/include/netdb.h:90, from bridge.c:32: /usr/include/sys/param.h:191:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition bridge.c: In function 'add_bridge': bridge.c:241: warning: implicit declaration of function 'inet_aton' bridge.c:263: warning: format '%d' expects type 'int', but argument 2 has type 'char *' bridge.c:263: warning: format '%d' expects type 'int', but argument 3 has type 'char *' bridge.c: In function 'add_service': bridge.c:276: warning: format '%s' expects type 'char *', but argument 3 has type 'struct BRIDGE *' bridge.c: In function 'dump_data': bridge.c:524: warning: implicit declaration of function 'inet_ntoa' bridge.c:531: warning: format '%s' expects type 'char *', but argument 4 has type 'int' bridge.c: In function 'main': bridge.c:564: warning: unused variable 'port' bridge.c:561: warning: unused variable 'len' /tmp//cc69aRp2.o(.text+0x934): In function `add_bridge': : warning: strcpy() is almost always misused, please use strlcpy() # cp bridge /var/bridge/ # cd /var/bridge/ # ./bridge 4711 Adding router ''local''. 00000000:0 Adding router ''sampsa''. 0afc2a0a:4711 Adding DECnet bridge local. Trying to match local Matching against: local Found match: local == local Adding DECnet bridge sampsa. Trying to match sampsa Matching against: local Matching against: sampsa Found match: sampsa == sampsa Adding LAT bridge local. Trying to match local Matching against: local Found match: local == local Adding LAT bridge sampsa. Trying to match sampsa Matching against: local Matching against: sampsa Found match: sampsa == sampsa Host table: Segmentation fault (core dumped) -brian

12 years, 11 months

AXP Emulation

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

What I meant is that the os fit was done in firmware. Not, like the VAX, where the instruction set was designed to match demands from the os. IIRC the queue instructions aren't part of the Alpha instruction set. On or off topic? It's Digital Lore, right :-) -----Original Message----- From: Phil Mendelsohn <phil at rephil.org> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:29:00 To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] AXP Emulation On 10/08/2012 3:10 PM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:07 PM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: Correct, Windows started off on four platforms so the intimacy of VMS with the VAX was just not there. But VMS was a lot farther away from Alpha too. I don't think that's accurate. Most operating systems are not closely tied to a specific platform. And in the case of VMS, the Alpha architecture had some specific attributes that were meant to make porting VMS easier. I agree. Alpha architecture was done with a posteriori and first-hand internal knowledge of VMS and where it was headed / what it's customers needed. I had a pre-release AXP Architecture Handbook which would confirm, if I could lay my hands on the tree ware. But this is OT, I suppose. Phil M -- "Worry is a misuse of imagination." -- Some Guy Called Dan Zadra

12 years, 11 months

AXP Emulation

by phil＠rephil.org

On 10/08/2012 3:10 PM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:07 PM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: Correct, Windows started off on four platforms so the intimacy of VMS with the VAX was just not there. But VMS was a lot farther away from Alpha too. I don't think that's accurate. Most operating systems are not closely tied to a specific platform. And in the case of VMS, the Alpha architecture had some specific attributes that were meant to make porting VMS easier. I agree. Alpha architecture was done with a posteriori and first-hand internal knowledge of VMS and where it was headed / what it's customers needed. I had a pre-release AXP Architecture Handbook which would confirm, if I could lay my hands on the tree ware. But this is OT, I suppose. Phil M -- "Worry is a misuse of imagination." -- Some Guy Called Dan Zadra

12 years, 11 months

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