I discovered a pernicious boot race condition in FAL. Early in system
start up, only the boot structure (which may not be the login
structure), is recognized by Tops-20. MOUNTR has to start and identify
those other structures which should be made available and their
settings, which it does by looking at where they are persisted in
SYSTEM:DEVICE-STATUS.BIN file. Until MOUNTR has completed structure
identification, any RCDIR% might fail for a non-boot structure. This is
exactly what happens for FAL, which is running asynchronously and
sometimes crashed during start up.
One quick and dirty hack was to simply wait to start FAL, which I did,
but that has its own problems which I won't detail here. I tried some
other hacks, such as doing the mount from the EXEC, which had other
different drawbacks.
The real thing to do is to issue a mount request for the structure from
FAL itself and--once Galaxy is up and running--is processed, will make
RCDIR% safe to do (or safer, anyway). At any rate, there should be no
timing issue in this case. As Columbia's Galaxy programmer in the
1980's and having done some minor work in LCG's Galaxy group in the late
1970's, I actually knew how to do such a request and did so, having
written some sub-routines to issue queue requests for our ID system in
the 1980's.
So, I decided to fix FAL to 'do the right thing' and wound up down
another rabbit hole. I should emphasize "/knew/ how to do", as doing
that kind of Galaxy IPCF request is kind of hairy, particularly if you
haven't done it in four decades. After I looked at it for a while, I
grew despaired at having to relearn it again.
Incredibly, DEC defined a new JSYS called QUEUE% which seemed to do the
trick. Briefly, it performs certain Galaxy requests on behalf of the
user, converting it's simpler calling format to an internal Galaxy
format, getting a PID, and returning the response. QUEUE% does a lot of
cool things, including mount requests. Or at least it's documented to...
Besides having its own bugs, there is no code in Galaxy handle a mount
request from QUEUE%... The simpler format that QUEUE% is using is
actually something that Quasar internally calls a 'short' queue request,
which I had known about back in the day. What happens is that the
QSRQUE module converts it into the regular ('long') format and away you
go. This works fine for printing, plotting, punching, and other kinds
of spooling requests, including batch jobs.
There is no short format for mounting, QSRQUE has no code for this
because mount requests are dispatched to MOUNTR... Nothing is persisted
in the failsoft file. So I wrote a conversion routine to do exactly
that before the request makes it to QSRMDA and thence to MOUNTR.
Naturally doing all that resulted in a hailstorm of other issues as I
pushed things a little farther than they had been designed for.
It happens. I'm working through everything, bit by bit.
Tops-20 has a version of the VMS PHONE protocol that I look at from time
to time.
Is there a published specification for this anywhere? I'd like to maybe
do some work on the Tops-20 code, but I'd prefer not to reverse engineer
what I don't have to.
Besides VMS and Tops-20, what other systems speak PHONE?
I finally got my issues with Comcast straightened out and I now have static IP addresses. They are
IPv4: 50.185.8.122
IPv6: 2603:300b:6c4:21a0:c77b:4f58:27e4:6de2
These are also always available in DNS as decnet.theberrymans.com <http://decnet.theberrymans.com/>
Hopefully, this will be the last change for a while.
Mark Berryman
Area 27
Hi again,
The IP address change has been postponed. Sorry about all this. The IP address of the router will remain at 82.70.71.174 for the next few weeks at least.
Regards
Keith
From: Keith Halewood [mailto:Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org]
Sent: 27 January 2024 09:50
To: The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] Re: IP address change for A29RT2 (29.2) - CORRECTION
I have misquoted the new IP address.
Here are the correct details:
The address IP address of A29RT2 (29.2) is changing at around 11:00 GMT today from 82.70.71.174 to 82.71.111.30. DNS updates to geat.pitbulluk.org will no doubt propagate at their own pace.
I have been assured that our IPv6 prefix (for what it's worth) isn't changing.
Please update your multinet 'connects', any IP restrictions on your multinet 'listens' and the far ends of your DDCMP over TCP or UDP connections accordingly, assuming pydecnet.
From: Keith Halewood [mailto:Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org]
Sent: 27 January 2024 08:57
To: The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se<mailto:hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se>>
Subject: [HECnet] IP address change for A29RT2 (29.2)
Hi,
Sorry for the incredibly short notice and the wide distribution - this wasn't supposed to happen at all.
The address IP address of A29RT2 (29.2) is changing at around 11:00 GMT today from 82.70.71.174 to 82.70.111.30. DNS updates to geat.pitbulluk.org will no doubt propagate at their own pace.
I have been assured that our IPv6 prefix (for what it's worth) isn't changing.
Please update your multinet 'connects', any IP restrictions on your multinet 'listens' and the far ends of your DDCMP over TCP or UDP connections accordingly, assuming pydecnet.
Regards
Keith
Hi,
Just thought I'd mention that I managed to contact someone who was able to package up and send me a copy of the Algol 68 RS compiler and runtime for VAX/VMS. It works very well under 7.3 and has everything,
including the idiosyncrasies that I remember. Every time I compile something I keep thinking "at last!"
So happy.
Keith
I usually don't send LSSM "new machine" updates here, as we're
getting new hardware up and running all the time, but this is such a
beefy machine that I wanted to mention it here.
Over the past week we've built up a VAX-6460...Six 6000-400
processors, 384MB of RAM, Ethernet, a KDB50, and an RA90, running (for
now) VMS v5.5. And the kicker: an FV64A vector processor board! We've
not done anything with it yet, but it passes its diagnostics and VMS
sees it. We will likely put an RA92 on it and install VMS 7.3 soon.
Interestingly, the vector processor has "PROTOTYPE" stamped all over
it. :)
I'll try to put the vector processor through its paces with FORTRAN
in the coming days.
This machine will be on HECnet whenever it's powered up, as with all
of our other DECnet-capable machines, we just have to pull an Ethernet
cable to it and assign it an address. Assuming the vector processor
runs, people here are welcome to request scheduled run times to log in
and use the machine.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I have misquoted the new IP address.
Here are the correct details:
The address IP address of A29RT2 (29.2) is changing at around 11:00 GMT today from 82.70.71.174 to 82.71.111.30. DNS updates to geat.pitbulluk.org will no doubt propagate at their own pace.
I have been assured that our IPv6 prefix (for what it's worth) isn't changing.
Please update your multinet 'connects', any IP restrictions on your multinet 'listens' and the far ends of your DDCMP over TCP or UDP connections accordingly, assuming pydecnet.
From: Keith Halewood [mailto:Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org]
Sent: 27 January 2024 08:57
To: The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] IP address change for A29RT2 (29.2)
Hi,
Sorry for the incredibly short notice and the wide distribution - this wasn't supposed to happen at all.
The address IP address of A29RT2 (29.2) is changing at around 11:00 GMT today from 82.70.71.174 to 82.70.111.30. DNS updates to geat.pitbulluk.org will no doubt propagate at their own pace.
I have been assured that our IPv6 prefix (for what it's worth) isn't changing.
Please update your multinet 'connects', any IP restrictions on your multinet 'listens' and the far ends of your DDCMP over TCP or UDP connections accordingly, assuming pydecnet.
Regards
Keith
Hi,
Sorry for the incredibly short notice and the wide distribution - this wasn't supposed to happen at all.
The address IP address of A29RT2 (29.2) is changing at around 11:00 GMT today from 82.70.71.174 to 82.70.111.30. DNS updates to geat.pitbulluk.org will no doubt propagate at their own pace.
I have been assured that our IPv6 prefix (for what it's worth) isn't changing.
Please update your multinet 'connects', any IP restrictions on your multinet 'listens' and the far ends of your DDCMP over TCP or UDP connections accordingly, assuming pydecnet.
Regards
Keith
I found Muddle (MDL) repositories on Github and now learned about VMS version in that repository but no binaries.
Does anyone have a copy of Muddle 1.03 for VMS? That allows Zork MDL files to run.
Does anyone have a copy of Scribe or alternative software to interpret MSS document files into printouts?
Thanks,
Tim
Time for a new release announcement of TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS.
This is version 2.15 of BQTCP/IP.
This release comes just a couple of days efter 2.14. The reason is
that a critical bug was discovered that can crash the system. Bottom
issue is that a UDP receive which times out can corrupt the system.
It is strongly recommended that systems are updated immediately.
Apart from this, nothing had been updated compared to release 2.14, so
the release notes will for 2.14 will be repeated below, with the
added bugfix for the UDP driver.
Apart from that, I wish you all a happy new year, with lots of new RSX
fun stuff coming.
Highlights:
Bugfixes for potentially serious bugs in all drivers.
New, completely rewritten name resolver.
New, completely rewritten RWHOD daemon, and added related user applications.
Added functionality in UDP and TCP drivers.
Detailed information on things that have been done since the last release:
IP:
. Bugfixes in all drivers. Sometimes task header was not mapped when
doing manipulations that assumed the task header was mapped.
UDP:
. Bugfix in UDDRV. At packet timeout, we tried to free an IP packet that
don't exist.
. Bugfixes in all drivers. Sometimes task header was not mapped when
doing manipulations that assumed the task header was mapped.
. Bugfix in UDP. If UDP gets an ICMP error packet, system crash out, as
it was incorrectly interpreted as a packet with data.
. Add EFN user notification in UDP.
TCP:
. Bugfixes in all drivers. Sometimes task header was not mapped when
doing manipulations that assumed the task header was mapped.
. Add user flag for blocking ASTs in TCP.
. Improve TCP ack, window update and retransmit performance.
. Improve TCP retransmit timer in case we are probing a zero window.
. Improve retransmit handling. Fixed keepalive management including
actually activating it when enabled.
. Remove separate probe handling.
. Bugfix. If a TCP socket initially cannot send, the retry logic might
not ever have sent any data.
. Bugfix. The fast retransmit logic in TCP was not working right.
RESOLVER:
. Improve resolver ACP abort handling to avoid a race condition.
. Improved DNS resolver. Remember all DNS servers we query, and mark
servers bad not only if we get errors, but also if we get no responses
at all.
. Improved DNS resolver. Remember if we have a bad DNS server, and don't
make use of it for a little while. Fix various timing issues in DNS
resolver.
. Improved DNS resolver. If we get NXDOMAIN on a query, and we also
might consider doing an mDNS query for it, we should not fail the query
at the first NXDOMAIN error. Improve staggered DNS query progress.
. Improved DNS resolver. It now can make use of TASK defined logical names.
. Bugfix in DNS handling of CNAMEs.
. Improved DNS resolving. Proper processing of .local domain.
. Added DNS lookup tool.
. Complete new resolver ACP written.
TELNETD:
. Change telnet server to use flag to block ASTs when terminal driver
indicates XOFF, so that we can still be notified for things like
connection closed.
. Fixed TELNET server to properly handle if TC: is not running.
TELNET:
. Bugfix in telnet client. Even if server responded with DONT to
terminal type, the terminal type was sent.
. Bugfix in telnet client. If we are in binary mode, CR should not be
padded.
RWHOD:
. Added new RWHOD daemon, along with RUPTIME and RWHO client.
MAIL:
. Bugfix in mail reader. If a mail didn't have a label on it, the mail
reader could get into an infinite loop. Repair function did not repair
such mails.
. EXPUNGE function in mail was very slow.
. Bugfix. MAILRD could crash when showing mails with long lines.
LPR:
. Changed LPQ program to be able to take hostname argument.
C libraries:
. Bugfix in C IP libraries. Memory corruption could happen because a
register could get corrupted.
. Bugfix in IPC library. neterr was not set on a successful rcv.
BP2 libraries:
. Revised the BP2 inet library.
IPGEN:
. Bugfix in IPGEN.CMD. On initial generation, if manual interface
configuration is selected, the program crashed out.
IPINS:
. Improved IPINS to dynamically select QNA or UNA for ethernet.
IPCONFIG:
. Rewritten IPCONFIG.CMD
Some additional notes:
As usual, I would recommend people to update as soon as possible.
The changes are somewhat critical, but will also lead to a much better
experience.
The patches to the TT: driver cannot be applied automatically, but
requires users to apply the patches themselves, and then run SYSGEN to
generate a new system.
Once added, the TNC2 task can be run at login, and will define logical
names for the user telling where he is connected from, if using telnet
or LAT.
The TT: driver patches also allows the updated MCR to give more
information with the DEV command (SHOW TERMINAL in DCL).
The patched TT: driver also makes is possible to get telnetd fully
vectorized, as this version provides two more addresses that are
required by telnetd to access information in the kernel.
The other patches to RSX can be applied automatically by IPGEN, either
if used interactively when answering YES to the question about applying
RSX patches, or by running IPGEN explicitly to do the patches, with the
command:
@IPGEN PATCH
Specific information about the patches:
LAT: Fixes a memory leak, and adds the ability to read where a terminal
connection comes from when using LAT, using SF.GMC.
RMSDAP: Fixes a bug in getting the file protection, so the XAB gets
filled in correctly for remote files.
RMSDSP: Fixes that some numbers were displayed in signed octal, which
should have been displayed in decimal or unsigned octal, depending on
number.
DCL: Added terminal attributes for COLOR.
MCR: Too many fixes to be listed here...
INS: Fixes that users cannot circumvent protection on common regions.
HEL: Fix that users can login with session ID, or with directory, in
addition to name and UIC.
ACNT: Add no password change attribute to accounts.
PSW: Add no password change handling.
SYL (SYSLOG): Add terminal idle tracking on accounts without idle logout.
ECL: If the receiving machine is very slow, and the sending machine is
very fast, and the receiver announce several large buffers available,
ECL cannot keep up, and drops packets. This is a problem with the DECnet
flow control, as it is used in RSX. The simple solution is to allow more
outstanding buffers when receiving. A more complex solution would be to
change how RSX DECnet do flow control, but that would require rewriting
a fair chunk of the ECL module.
NMVACP: Fix handling of "show known nodes" command, which could skip
some nodes.
NVP: Add ability to use session ID or directory name for user identity
in DECnet nodename specifications.
EPM: Fix handling of ethernet multicast.
NTDEMO: Fix that hosts without names should display DECnet address.
NCP: Parse of additional information types in NICE messages.
As usual, the distribution is available from:
ftp://mim.stupi.net/bqtcp.dskftp://mim.stupi.net/bqtcp.tap
!!! BQTCP is also available through RPM !!!
(As an additional note, if there are any problems communicating with Mim
using port 21, the ftp service is also available at port 10021)
The documentation is also available through ftp on Mim, or also at
http://mim.stupi.net/tcpipdoc
I hope people find this update useful.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Time for a new release announcement of TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS.
This is version 2.14 of BQTCP/IP.
It's been almost six months since the last official update. Some major
improvements and bugfixes have been done, and it is strongly recommended
that systems are updated.
Highlights:
Bugfixes for potentially serious bugs in all drivers.
New, completely rewritten name resolver.
New, completely rewritten RWHOD daemon, and added related user applications.
Added functionality in UDP and TCP drivers.
Detailed information on things that have been done since the last release:
IP:
. Bugfixes in all drivers. Sometimes task header was not mapped when
doing manipulations that assumed the task header was mapped.
UDP:
. Bugfixes in all drivers. Sometimes task header was not mapped when
doing manipulations that assumed the task header was mapped.
. Bugfix in UDP. If UDP gets an ICMP error packet, system crash out, as
it was incorrectly interpreted as a packet with data.
. Add EFN user notification in UDP.
TCP:
. Bugfixes in all drivers. Sometimes task header was not mapped when
doing manipulations that assumed the task header was mapped.
. Add user flag for blocking ASTs in TCP.
. Improve TCP ack, window update and retransmit performance.
. Improve TCP retransmit timer in case we are probing a zero window.
. Improve retransmit handling. Fixed keepalive management including
actually activating it when enabled.
. Remove separate probe handling.
. Bugfix. If a TCP socket initially cannot send, the retry logic might
not ever have sent any data.
. Bugfix. The fast retransmit logic in TCP was not working right.
RESOLVER:
. Improve resolver ACP abort handling to avoid a race condition.
. Improved DNS resolver. Remember all DNS servers we query, and mark
servers bad not only if we get errors, but also if we get no responses
at all.
. Improved DNS resolver. Remember if we have a bad DNS server, and don't
make use of it for a little while. Fix various timing issues in DNS
resolver.
. Improved DNS resolver. If we get NXDOMAIN on a query, and we also
might consider doing an mDNS query for it, we should not fail the query
at the first NXDOMAIN error. Improve staggered DNS query progress.
. Improved DNS resolver. It now can make use of TASK defined logical names.
. Bugfix in DNS handling of CNAMEs.
. Improved DNS resolving. Proper processing of .local domain.
. Added DNS lookup tool.
. Complete new resolver ACP written.
TELNETD:
. Change telnet server to use flag to block ASTs when terminal driver
indicates XOFF, so that we can still be notified for things like
connection closed.
. Fixed TELNET server to properly handle if TC: is not running.
TELNET:
. Bugfix in telnet client. Even if server responded with DONT to
terminal type, the terminal type was sent.
. Bugfix in telnet client. If we are in binary mode, CR should not be
padded.
RWHOD:
. Added new RWHOD daemon, along with RUPTIME and RWHO client.
MAIL:
. Bugfix in mail reader. If a mail didn't have a label on it, the mail
reader could get into an infinite loop. Repair function did not repair
such mails.
. EXPUNGE function in mail was very slow.
. Bugfix. MAILRD could crash when showing mails with long lines.
LPR:
. Changed LPQ program to be able to take hostname argument.
C libraries:
. Bugfix in C IP libraries. Memory corruption could happen because a
register could get corrupted.
. Bugfix in IPC library. neterr was not set on a successful rcv.
BP2 libraries:
. Revised the BP2 inet library.
IPGEN:
. Bugfix in IPGEN.CMD. On initial generation, if manual interface
configuration is selected, the program crashed out.
IPINS:
. Improved IPINS to dynamically select QNA or UNA for ethernet.
IPCONFIG:
. Rewritten IPCONFIG.CMD
Some additional notes:
As usual, I would recommend people to update as soon as possible.
The changes are somewhat critical, but will also lead to a much better
experience.
The patches to the TT: driver cannot be applied automatically, but
requires users to apply the patches themselves, and then run SYSGEN to
generate a new system.
Once added, the TNC2 task can be run at login, and will define logical
names for the user telling where he is connected from, if using telnet
or LAT.
The TT: driver patches also allows the updated MCR to give more
information with the DEV command (SHOW TERMINAL in DCL).
The patched TT: driver also makes is possible to get telnetd fully
vectorized, as this version provides two more addresses that are
required by telnetd to access information in the kernel.
The other patches to RSX can be applied automatically by IPGEN, either
if used interactively when answering YES to the question about applying
RSX patches, or by running IPGEN explicitly to do the patches, with the
command:
@IPGEN PATCH
Specific information about the patches:
LAT: Fixes a memory leak, and adds the ability to read where a terminal
connection comes from when using LAT, using SF.GMC.
RMSDAP: Fixes a bug in getting the file protection, so the XAB gets
filled in correctly for remote files.
RMSDSP: Fixes that some numbers were displayed in signed octal, which
should have been displayed in decimal or unsigned octal, depending on
number.
DCL: Added terminal attributes for COLOR.
MCR: Too many fixes to be listed here...
INS: Fixes that users cannot circumvent protection on common regions.
HEL: Fix that users can login with session ID, or with directory, in
addition to name and UIC.
ACNT: Add no password change attribute to accounts.
PSW: Add no password change handling.
SYL (SYSLOG): Add terminal idle tracking on accounts without idle logout.
ECL: If the receiving machine is very slow, and the sending machine is
very fast, and the receiver announce several large buffers available,
ECL cannot keep up, and drops packets. This is a problem with the DECnet
flow control, as it is used in RSX. The simple solution is to allow more
outstanding buffers when receiving. A more complex solution would be to
change how RSX DECnet do flow control, but that would require rewriting
a fair chunk of the ECL module.
NMVACP: Fix handling of "show known nodes" command, which could skip
some nodes.
NVP: Add ability to use session ID or directory name for user identity
in DECnet nodename specifications.
EPM: Fix handling of ethernet multicast.
NTDEMO: Fix that hosts without names should display DECnet address.
NCP: Parse of additional information types in NICE messages.
As usual, the distribution is available from:
ftp://mim.stupi.net/bqtcp.dskftp://mim.stupi.net/bqtcp.tap
!!! BQTCP is also available through RPM !!!
(As an additional note, if there are any problems communicating with Mim
using port 21, the ftp service is also available at port 10021)
The documentation is also available through ftp on Mim, or also at
http://mim.stupi.net/tcpipdoc
I hope people find this update useful.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Ok, this is a long shot, but does anybody know the algorithm used by the
VMS (and presumably RSX) RX01/RX02 driver for interleaving sectors?
More specifically, logical blocks on VMS are always 512 bytes but RX01
sectors are 128 bytes and RX02 sectors are 256. So each logical block
consists of 4 RX01 sectors or 2 RX02 sectors. I'm presuming these sectors
are not contiguous, but rather the device driver uses some kind of
interleave to minimize the rotational delays. What exactly is that
algorithm?
Or even more detail, I have a bunch of RX01 and RX02 image files (as VMS
disk files) that were created using a program that dumps consecutive VMS
logical blocks (using SYS$QIOW(.IO$_READLBLK,.). This works great for
things where the logical to physical translation is hidden from the OS (like
all MSCP drives) for RX drives that's not the case. I need to figure out
how to unscramble the 512 byte blocks in my VMS file to re-create the
original sectors.
And no, I don't have access to the actual diskettes to dump them again.
Shouldn't matter - the data is in the file, I just have to figure out the
correct bit shuffling to get it back in the right order. I guess if I get
really desperate I'll try to find the source listings for the drivers, but
I'm hoping somebody just knows.
Bob
Hi,
I've been running the Panda distribution of TOPS-20 on the KLH10 simulator on a Raspberry Pi 4 for some years now. It's WALACH on HECnet. The version of the Pi's OS had been the 32 bit implementation but as some of these were being replaced by 8Gb versions, I recently took the plunge and updated (by re-imaging) everything to the current 64 bit Raspberry Pi OS.
In rebuilding SIMH and KLH10, I sync'd with the latest sources. With SIMH, there were no issues but the KLH10 updates, seemingly post ~2021 have broken networking. The line in my klt20.ini file is:
devdef ni0 564 ni20 dedic=true ifc=tapX ifmeth=tap+bridge ipaddr=192.168.2.46 enaddr=aa:00:04:00:6c:74
With the dpni20 executable running as root, the 'old' behaviour causes it to use the default bridge name 'bridge0' and create a tap device 'tap0' (it disregards the ifc=tapX part of the line).
The new behaviour results in a whole load of IOCTL errors while attempting to create the tap device.
I avoided the problem by restoring the original version of the KLH10 simulator sources and compiling.
The whole thing has reminded me that I wanted to fix the code a while back so that it would make use of an existing tap device, created via /etc/network/interfaces, with full control granted to the non-privileged user the rest of KLH10 runs under, then dpni20 would not need to be privileged. Once I've finished with the upgrades I might have a go.... along with all of the other half-done/half-forgotten projects in this area.
Keith
Hi,
During my postgraduate days, I ran ANU NEWS on our VAX/VMS systems and we peered large parts of the hierarchy. I think even back then we were exclusively NNTP over TCP/IP. I have a vague memory that I wrote a multi-threaded NNTP server for ANU but it was using the CMUTEK TCP/IP product so it was all done with QIO and ASTs - none of this weird select stuff of Unix sockets.
With Google groups being hit by 1000s of spam messages a day - astrology, voodoo, death spells, etc. - I'm tempted to get ANU NEWS installed and running again, probably SIMH-hosted VAX OpenVMS and, as above, peer some of the groups. Disc space and bandwidth aren't an issue and I'd like to see NNTP running over DECnet.... And I'm more familiar with ANU NEWS's SMG interface than I ever was with the likes of tin and rm.
Actually, wanting to do this has less to do with Google's mess and more about nostalgia. If/when it's all up and running, I'll consider getting it running on some real Alpha or IA64 hardware, probably based mostly on which has the lower power consumption.
Just wondering if anybody else is doing/done something similar.
Keith
Version 5.3(235)-5 incorporates all fixes since the major release of
5.3, Edit 230 in January of this year. These are as follows and can be
identified in the code with the edit number as the prefix of a comment.
<about:blank?compose#_Toc137380940>
[231] Fix RECEIVE with no file name
[232] 36 bit byte file sizes
[233] Transaction Log and Debug log fixes and enhancements
Transaction logging
Garbled Text
Write-Protection Failures
Enhancements
Debug Log Decode Fix
[234] Error messages may not be seen if displayed in remote server
[235] Properly signal and handle file errors in server mode
Additional Batch Tests
K2036P: Kermit-20 36 Bit Mode via pseudo-terminal
K2036C: Kermit-20 36 Bit Mode via pseudo-terminal with parity
Updated Help
All source, documentation, executables, control files and test data are
available for Anonymous NFT on HECnet from VENTI2::PS:<OINKY.K20MIT> and
associated subdirectories. Documentation includes more detail on the
above list. All regression tests have passed except for Tops-10 because
of some local networking issues.
Be aware that VENTI2:: is running a FAL alpha candidate, so let me know
if you get unexpected behavior.
Hi,
Is anyone testing this mailing list's recipients?
The reason I ask is:
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Activity from cassini.dfupdate.se is valid and expected.
The other attempt(s) from static.216.112.243.136.clients.your-server.de was an attempted non-local relay to jessindewinter(a)gmail.com<mailto:jessindewinter@gmail.com>
It wasn't exactly a problem and the attempt was denied with some tar-pitting along the way.
Times in GMT+01:00 (BST) by the way.
Keith
Hey folks. Does anyone have images of the RSX-11M v4.8 RK06/RK07
kit? I have the RL kit, but I would like to have the RK06/RK07 kit.
I think Oleg may have it, but my mail server doesn't seem to be
talking to his mail server.
Thanks,
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hey folks, would anyone here happen to have the firmware files for
the Emulex Performance 2500 and Performance 4000 LAT terminal servers?
I really regret not having snagged a copy of that stuff when I
managed a bunch of those in the early 1990s. Wasn't thinking ahead I guess.
Thanks,
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I’m trying to get mail working from my latest Linux DECnet release to OopenVMS with the intention of eventually upgrading to the mail11v3 protocol. I’m running an up to date version of VAX OpenVMS V7.3 with all patches I’ve found on a recent download of OpenSimh on a really slow ARM system. The system has a default DECnet account as well as a MAIL$SERVER account. Whenever I try to send e-mail, the connection is rejected with a “No such user” error:
Auditable event: Network login failure
Event time: 29-NOV-2023 10:14:32.96
PID: 00000098
Process name: MAIL_8198
Username: DECNET
Remote node id: 42186 (41.202)
Remote username: Linux0000
Status: %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user
I also get the same rejection error if I try to connect to FAL with no access control information. However, if I connect to FAL using the explicit nonpriviledged userid/password returned by NCP, everything works as expected.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
John.
Version 5.3(248)-5 incorporates additional features, enhancements and
fixes since the minor release of 5.3(235)-5, in June of this year
(11-Jun-2023).These are as follows and can be identified in the code
with the edit number as the prefix of a comment.
[236] Implement /FORKLESS connections for DECnet NRT’s
[237] Implement the RETURN keyword to stop processing a TAKE file
[238] Enhanced NRT disconnect messages
[239] Use .HPTOD (High Precision Time of Day) if the monitor has it
HPTIM% .HPTOD
[240] When logging to a disk file, display the number of bytes written
[241] Handle potential case of incorrect data being sent for CWD
[242] ECHO /TRANSACTION /DEBUG /SESSION Switches
[243] Fix off by one error which appended NUL characters in packets
[244] Fix server FINISH does not close all logs
[245] Rewrite MOVSTU to use EXTEND instead of loop
[246] Additional C escape sequences: \O and \U
[247] Rewrite IAC handling to use EXTEND instead of loop
[248] Fix incorrect string lengths being returned by C constant
expansion
Kermit-20-Testing-Battery-5.3(248)-5 Updates and new Batch Tests
K20DPD: Updated Kermit-20 Packet Decoding Example
K20NRV: Updated Kermit-20 Server functions via Tops-20 DECnet NRT to
local host
K20NRT: Updated Kermit-20 Server functions via Tops-20 DECnet NRT to
remote host
K20DPD: Updated Kermit-20 Packet Decoding Example
K20P8R: New Regression test against Kermit-20 4.2(174) [2-May-85] 8
bit files with parity
K20RDC: New Communications comparison Kermit-20 4.2(174) [2-May-85]
and 5.3(248)-5
K1036N: Kermit-10 36 bit Regression Tests via DECnet NRT
Updated Help
It is available for anonymous NFT from VENTI2:: in the K20MIT
sub-directory. The full announcement may be find in text format in:
VENTI2::TOMMYT:<OINKY.K20MIT.DOCUMENTATION>KERMIT-20_V5_3(248)-5-ANNOUNCEMENT.TXT.
Note that the left and right parenthesis will need to be quoted with a
Control-V. Alternatively, you can just grab the whole documentation
directory and have your local NFT do the naming.
Sometime around mid-2022 the Linux kernel developers decided to remove the DECnet code from the Linux
kernel. Kernel 6.0.x was the last release which included source code for a DECnet implementation. More
recently, there has been some discussion around removing the code from the Long Term Support kernels.
These changes mean that the repository I have been maintaining at
<https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet> can no longer be installed on recent releases.
Over the past year or so, I have been working on a replacement for this repository with the following
characteristics:
- Designed to be built as an external kernel module
This simplifies and speeds up the installation since we no longer need to rebuild the entire
kernel.
- Can only be built as an ethernet endnode
Again this substantially simplifies the kernel code. The routing code was alway marked as
“experimental” and I never tried to get it running. If you need a DECnet router, pyDECnet or
Route20 are much better solutions.
- Minimize the use of Linux kernel frameworks
Many of the problems with keeping RaspbianDECnet running between Linux versions
were changes to the kernel framework APIs. By limiting the use of these APIs I am hoping
that the kernel module will need fewer changes to keep up with kernel changes. So far,
I have had to make one additional conditional code change at kernel 6.5 and that was in
the socket layer so all networking code would need to be changed.
In addition to a new kernel module there have been a number of changes to the userland code:
- What used to be “fal2” is now the default file access listener. The old “fal” is still available in the
“fal-old” directory
- What used to be “nml2” is now the default and only network management listener.
- There is now a subset implementation of “ncp” which is sufficient to support all of the requests
available from the Linux network management listener. It does implement a “tell” prefix so all
of these commands may be issued to remote systems. In addition, it implements
“ncp copy known nodes from <node name/address>” to update the local node name database.
- The new kernel module now supports node counters as defined in the Network Management
Specification and the ncp/nml combination are able to display and zero them.
- The installation procedure is no longer targeted solely at Raspberry Pi releases. The current
procedure supports installation on systems derived from Debian or Fedora although only a
limited number of distributions have been tested (see README.DECnet).
This new release is available at:
<https://github.com/JohnForecast/LinuxDECnet>
and should be considered to be in Beta test at this time. See README.DECnet in the top level directory
for more information and installation instructions.
Hey folks. I've gotten a Pro380 running at LSSM, and have just
gotten a DECNA board installed. Can anyone point me to any docs for
Pro/DECnet? I don't see much online. I'd like to get it talking to the
rest of the DECnet machines at the museum and on HECnet. And, ideally,
LAT if possible.
Thanks,
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hi Everyone,
To everyone that has a GRE tunnel to A12RTR, the IP address has changed!
It is now 103.46.213.236, alternatively you can also use either of the
following names:
* tim.sneddon.id.au
* cmkrnl.io
There has been some disruption to my IPv6 config too, but I am
investigating that.
Regards, Tim.
I just found out about this from Terry Kennedy.
A MOP server for RSTS/E, free to use:
https://www.glaver.org/ftp/tmk-software/mop-server/
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
We could definitely make use of that! Can you spare it?
-Dave
On 9/2/23 06:38, Peter Lothberg wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Maybe you need a KS10 repair tool?
>
>
> -P
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave McGuire" <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
> > To: "The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list" <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 6:09:58 PM
> > Subject: [HECnet] Re: pssst...
>
> > Hahaaaa, thank you Fred! You really need to come back for a visit,
> > it has been a while. The guys and I have been very busy; we have a lot
> > more hardware up and running now.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > --
> > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> > New Kensington, PA
> >
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