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Routing issue?

by Keith.Halewood＠pitbulluk.org

Hi, I don't appear to be receiving any routing information from 31.3 (PYRTR) Keith

6 years

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Multinet 5.5 issues on VMS 7.3 (VAX) under SIMH

by Keith.Halewood＠pitbulluk.org

Hi, Is anybody running the NPTD functionality in Multinet 5.5 on VAX VMS 7.3 (under SIMH)? If so, how did you get it to work. I switched it on with a simple NTP.CONF and tried to query it. The logfile doesn't change much and I/O counts go up slowly. My attempts to query it usually result in a traceback. I'm a bit concerned by the lack of an NTPDATE command mentioned in the documentation, despite having done a full install. The timezone facility is a bit primitive too. I'm thinking of giving up with it. I have local TCP services on the machines hosting SIMH instances. One of them returns a local time string in VMS format, so I may make use of that in an RDATE-like fashion. Keith

6 years

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DECnet broken with 4.4.0-151 kernel

by bob＠jfcl.com

Anybody else out there running DECnet on Linux? I recently upgraded from the 4.4.0-148 kernel to 4.4.0-151 and find that DECnet does not work with the latter. Connections always seem to hang at minimum, and frequently cause kernel panics. Has anybody found a fix for this, or is this the end of the road? BTW, 4.4.0-151 was released recently to fix the TCP SACK kernel panic problem. Bob

6 years

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Processing time for Hobbyist Licenses

by mholmes10＠hotmail.com

Anyone familiar with the timeline for renewing Hobbyist licenses lately? I registered on the HPE site. In the past the turnaround was very quick, but it's been several days and nothing; so curious if this is the new timeline. thanks Mike

6 years

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Announcing TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS

by bqt＠softjar.se

Time for a new release announcement of TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS. Highlights: This release have some rather significant work done on the mail system. There have also been some minor improvements on TCP, HTTPD, FTP and libraries. Detailed information on things that have been done since the last release: TCP: . Improved retransmission handling at Fin Wait 2. . Correct keepalive handling at Fin Wait 2. . Improved processing at socket close. TCP sockets should do keepalives, and not probes when in Fin Wait 2. Libraries: . Corrected program section attributes on some modules in BQTLIB, so that they work correctly also on overlaid programs. . Bugfix in BQTC library. Recent changes to quadtime to string conversion had introduced a potential buffer overflow error. FTPD: . Change FTPD read command processing to avoid a race condition. HTTPD: . Reworked logging routines to fix some performance issues. . Bugfix in IND forms library for CGI scripts. MAILD: . Changed mailbox format for better performance. . Changed location for mail spool file. . Added checking for /NOBRO for new mail announcements. . Increased stack size since the task sometimes ran out of stack. . Reduced static data memory use. . Changed overlay scheme to make more memory available. . Added various error checks in the code. . Changed usage so all queue operations requires a user with privileges. . Added label handling for mails. . Added copying of sent mails to self. . Improved error mail generation in MAILD. . Added mail size information to mails. . Added conversion tool for old mailboxes. *** Important notice about MAILD *** The changes to MAILD are not seamless. When installing the new version, the mailbox update program should be run, in order to upgrade all user mailboxes to the new mailbox format. The task for this is MBXUPD.TSK. There are no issues with running this task several times. A mailbox that has already been updates will not be modified anymore by the update task. The location of the mail queue file have moved. After installation, you could just move the mail queue file over to the new place, or else re-initialize the mail system. The mail queue file name is MAILQUEUE.DAT, and it was previously located at MAIL$:, but it should be moved to LB:[1,7] instead. Once the mailboxes have been updated, and the mail queue file have been moved/recreated, the mail system have been updated, and you are ready to use the new mail system. *** Important notice about MAILD *** As usual, the distribution is available from: ftp://mim.update.uu.se/bqtcp.dsk ftp://mim.update.uu.se/bqtcp.tap ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/rsx/tcpip/tcpip.dsk The documentation is also available through ftp on Mim, or also at http://mim.update.uu.se/tcpipdoc I hope people find this update useful. While there are no really critical issues that have been solved, I still recommend people to update, since this new version do contain improvements that are beneficial and as far as I know there are no issues or problems updating to this newest version. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

6 years

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HECnet and LCM+L

by Keith.Halewood＠pitbulluk.org

Hi, Just a quick question - has anybody (else) approached the Living Computers Museum and Labs (in Seattle) with regard to getting their VAX (Rosie) and/or other DECnet-capable kit onto HECnet? Not so long ago, they 'hid' their systems behind a ssh gateway because of the number of attacks they were suffering via telnet. It makes it rather difficult to move code onto Rosie... well, perhaps more inconvenient than difficult, especially if all I want to copy are binaries. Just asking... Keith

6 years, 1 month

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Decnet on RSX-11

by kurt＠hamm.me

So, I added this command to the startup.cmd: @LB:[IPNET]INS.CMD. I didn't modify the file yet. I wanted to see what it would do The result after rebooting was this: >INS LB:[IPNET]MLTCOM/UIC=[1,54]/PRO=[RW,RW,,] >INS LB:[IPNET]MLTNET >INS LB:[IPNET]MLTCFG >NCP SET PROC IP TOP NCP -- Set failed, unrecognized component, Process >NCP SET LIN IP-0-* ALL NCP -- Set failed, invalid identification format, Line >MNC SHO VER Initialize common NT.IP not found. Exiting... >MNC SET CIR IP-0-0 TCA HOST MIM.UPDATE.UU.SE:7705 PORT 0 Initialize common NT.IP not found. Exiting... >NCP SET CIR IP-0-0 STA ON NCP -- Set failed, invalid identification format, Circuit There are lots of errors, so I am not sure where to start. Any advice would be appreciated. Kurt

6 years, 1 month

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Multinet Mail

by kurt＠hamm.me

I wasn't sure where to post this question, so I thought I would start here. I have two simh vax3900 machines. Larry and Moe. Larry is the HECNet router for Moe. When I send email from Larry (via SMTP), the *return *email address is correct (SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM. When I send email from Moe (to LARRY::SMTP%"user at domain.com"), the return email address is: SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM. Why is Moe using the SCSSYSTEMID instead of the system name? *I am missing something.* *Kurt*

6 years, 1 month

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GRE Peering

by tomas＠prybil.se

Dear fellow HECNETers I?ve been using Johnnys bridge for a year or so, (thank you Johnny!) and wanted do some additional networking. Before going full gre peering is there anyone out there that could act as intermediate peer to do some testing while I try not to break anything (!) On my side I have good network connectivity, but unfortunately no static IP :/ The box I?m using is a 2610XM with ios ver 12.4 Happy if anyone is willing to share their connectivity BR /t

6 years, 1 month

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Linux-DecNet and DecNet for DOS

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Right now I am busily trying to get an installation of the Linux for DecNet code to work on Slackware-11.0 Linux. The end result there would be to have it talk to a terminal server, a Model 90L design in fact. The last time I tried this out it was on a dedicated card wearing a COAX connector, and in a different machine, again running Slackware-11.0. It was being uncooperative then. The terminal server that is. However I have here both versions of DecNet for DOS that were released via BitSavers, would any of you know if these individuals running inside DOSBox would besides working, want to connect to the previously described Linux application? I figure if I can get that to work, I can sort out the details for the currently related problem. Incidentally I am also seeing if I can get that stuff to build properly on this laptop inside the WSL instance of SLES12SP3. That way I can take my problems to my hacker community meetings. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

6 years, 1 month

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Event Announcement: DEC Legacy is back on 9th-10th Nov 2019, Windermere UK

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

There will be machines connected to HECnet there this year! Please visit http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/ for more details. Mark.

6 years, 1 month

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DECnet on Ubuntu 14.04

by bob＠jfcl.com

Can anybody tell me the secret to making DECnet work on Ubuntu 14.04 (Precise)? Yes, this release is out of date but it's the one I need to use for other compatibility reasons. I installed the dnet-common, dnet-progs and libdnet packages from the standard repository. I configured the /etc/decnet.conf and dnet.conf files (and I don't care about decnet.proxy just yet). Nothing seems to give an error, the dnetd daemon is running, and the MAC of my eth0 has been changed to match my DECnet address. dneigh shows the correct adjacent routing node on the network. But nothing can communicate. All the DECnet commands (sethost, dnping, etc) give "socket: no such device" errors, and all the other DECnet machines on the network think the Linux host is unavailable. I seem to remember that there was some problem with the DECnet startup with upstart, but I don't remember the details and Google isn't being helpful today. Thanks, Bob

6 years, 1 month

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Announcing TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS

by bqt＠softjar.se

Time for a new release announcement of TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS. Highlights: This release have some performance improvements, bugfixes, and additional functionality. It also includes a print symbiont for the queue manager, which spools files over TCP/IP to remote printers. Detailed information on things that have been done since the last release: IP: . Added routing capability. . Added command to IFCONFIG to enable/disable routing. TCP: . Reworked TCP retransmit strategy for improved performance. . Bugfix in TCP timeouts. Sometimes the wrong time was used. . Change to allow creation of a new port if there is an existing port which is in time wait. . Improve TCP probe logic. . Bugfix in CR mode. CR was not padded by NUL if followed by another CR. . Added PU.RBL option to TCP sockets, for reading without blocking. . Bugfix in daemon creation. TCP could create more daemons than it was allowed to. TELNETD: . Added a shorter timeout for TELNETD incoming connection establish. . Added proper handling of low pool situation in TELNETD. . Bugfix in option processing. "Don't binary" option was not handled right. FTP: . Bugfix in FTP. Checking for existing file to not overwrite files at MGET incorrectly caused some transfers to not proceed. . Bugfix in FTP. PASSIVE command responded with the wrong message. . Bugfix in FTP. The initial connection from command line caused FTP to enter wrong transfer mode if the remote system was RSX. . Bugfix in FTP. The keepalive command in an INIT file caused the processing of the INIT file to abort. FTPD: . Improved statistics output at connection close. MAILD: . Improved performance. . Improved robustness of SMTP receive processing. . Changed mail queue format for better efficiency. . Fixed MAIL11 sending. Nonexistent node is a fatal error. . Increased stack size of MAILD task to avoid some crashes. NTPDATE: . Bugfix. If local time offset was too far from UTC, NTPDATE failed to correctly adjust time because some arithmetic was done with 16-bit integers. LPT: . Added new LPT spooler that runs under the queue manager. XLISP: . Added another example program. Libraries: . BQTLIB - Fixed checking for disabled accounts. (This affected FTPD). . IPC - Fixed sclose(). This function leaked file descriptor. Distribution: . Added SLIPACP and DLXACP. Both are to be considered very experimental, and might crash the system. But if someone is interested in SLIP, or IP over DDCMP, please contact me for more information. . Fixed generated IPINS.CMD file to work if CLI is not MCR. . Added default for LINE question in IPGEN. . Added two forgotten files with HTTPD server. . Added [1,1]DAPSLX.ODL, which should have been on RSX distribution. . Added RSXERR.MSG to distribution. *** A special note on the routing capability in BQTCP/IP: This functionality have been added since it might be needed if more interfaces than the standard ethernet and loopback is configured. This is at the moment very experimental, in the form of SLIP and DDCMP lines. If you do not use more than ethernet for external communication, you should not enable IP routing on the RSX host, as it is considered bad practice to have hosts in general do routing. As usual, the distribution is available from: ftp://mim.update.uu.se/bqtcp.dsk ftp://mim.update.uu.se/bqtcp.tap ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/rsx/tcpip/tcpip.dsk The documentation is also available through ftp on Mim, or also at http://mim.update.uu.se/tcpipdoc I hope people find this update useful. While there are no really critical issues that have been solved, I still recommend people to update, since this new version do contain improvements that are beneficial and as far as I know there are no issues or problems updating to this newest version. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

6 years, 2 months

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Why does MIM not list 23.1023 as a known node?

by supratim＠riseup.net

A GRE tunnel up from 31.1023 to 23.1023; area 23 nodes are reachable through it, but 23.1023 does not show up in the known nodes list of another router (31.1, openvms 7.3) in the same local network. Both 31.1 and 31.1023 are L2; and 31.1 is connected to MIM via MULTINET. 23.1023 does not show as known to MIM either. But MIM and 31.1 do know about area 23 nodes piglet, owl, rabbit etc. How is 23.1023 going stealth? --------- |31.1 | |IMPVAX |---Multinet/TCP---HECnet --------- | | ----------------- | Bunch of | | Area 31 nodes | ----------------- | | --------- |31.1023| |IMPRTR |---GRE Tunnels to other areas --------- Tunnel from 31.1023 to 23.1023: Area Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Expires Prio *23 4 1 Tunnel23 -> 23.1023 42 64 A+

6 years, 2 months

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One more for the Cisco GRE mesh: Seeking Tunnel End-Points

by supratim＠riseup.net

This email is directed to owners of Cisco routers with GRE tunnels; to the best of my limited knowledge, Dave McGuire, Ian McLaughlin, Brian Hechinger, Mark Darvill, Cory Smelosky, Peter L?thberg ... who else? I already have a stable GRE tunnel to A12RTR for a while now, and am looking for end-points on other Cisco routers on HECnet to connect to. I will be coming in from IP address 45.62.248.66, DECnet node 1.919. If possible, please let me know what GRE end-points I can connect to. You can, of course, DM me too. Thank you. Supratim +1-240-483-8572 (cell) -- Sent from a Compaq CQ61 running Linux Mint Tessa - Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style Ain't got no gal to make you smile Don't worry, be happy - Bobby McFerrin

6 years, 3 months

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OT VAXStation question

by tonyblews＠gmail.com

Hi, sorry to bother you all with none net related things, but I reckoned this was the most likely place to get an answer. Does one of you own a VAXstation 3100 or similar? I'm looking for the external dimensions so I can whip up a small scale replica case to house a Raspberry Pi inside. I could go by guesswork and memory, but I'd rather do it right. Thanks, Tony -- Tony Blews tonyblews at gmail.com http://www.tonyblews.co.uk/ Mob: +44(0)7832 237251 Twit: @tonyblews

6 years, 3 months

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LSSM/MACT update

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hey folks, slightly OT, but there's PDP-11 stuff in here. :) For those of you who aren't on (blech) Facebook, here's my post of a few minutes ago. -Dave ----- Hi folks! We have a great update for you today. Our fundraiser was successful, and we've just finished executing a successful four-stop road trip in a 26-foot rental truck. The first stop was local; we went to the University of Pittsburgh's CompSci building in downtown Pittsburgh. Pitt was kind enough to donate a large volume of DEC hardware to LSSM/MACT, constituting the bulk of their internal CompSci Department computer museum. There are several PDP-11s, but the centerpiece is an absolutely stunning PDP-11/t55 system with a large complement of peripherals including several RK05 and RK07 drives, two TU56+TC11 subsystems, a TU16 9-track tape drive, a Three Rivers Computer Unibus monitor...the list goes on and on. Lots of parts, documentation, RK05 and RK07 disk packs, etc etc. A big thanks to Dr. Bob Hoffman and the University of Pittsburgh for this fantastic donation! We'll have that PDP-11/t55 up and running soon. This equipment almost completely filled the truck, so we went back to the museum after that to unload. Next, we hit the road with an empty truck for Minneapolis, Minnesota, to pick up an HP-3000 series 39 system, complete with a 7978 9-track tape drive, a 7935 disk drive, and two 7914 disk/tape subsystems. Sadly there were no terminals, but the system is otherwise complete and in very good condition considering its age. It was donated by the family of Mr. Terry Stolp in his memory, and it will have a good home here. Next, we visited the positively huge IBM facility in Rochester, Minnesota where we picked up a model 3774 RJE terminal with a 3501 card reader, a 3521 card punch with controller, and a 3784 line printer. We thank IBM for this fantastic donation, and we appreciate their dedication to the preservation of their (large) part of history. Last but not least, we visited the amazing Steppenwolf Theatre in Chicago, where we picked up a beautiful and very rare Singer/Friden System Ten computer system, complete with two large disk drives, a line printer, two terminals, and documentation. Thanks to Chad Hain of Steppenwolf for this very unusual donation. The photo attached to this post is the System Ten's CPU. So now we're back and unloaded, and the truck is returned. When we are all recovered from this rather exhausting trip, we'll take some pictures and post them here for your viewing pleasure, over the next few days. Thank you all for your donations, which made this pickup run possible! -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

6 years, 3 months

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I’m back...

by Keith.Halewood＠pitbulluk.org

Back to good old wired DSL and fixed IP addresses. Keith

6 years, 3 months

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Minimal Requirements

by dave.g4ugm＠gmail.com

Folks, Do I still need a fixed IP address to have a node on HECNET? I can't see anything on the HECNET web site. Dave Wade G4UGM & EA7KAE

6 years, 3 months

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PSTHRU object 123

by gerry77＠mail.com

Hello everyone, :) while doing some housekeeping in one of my VMS systems I just came across the PSTHRU.EXE DECnet tool for VAX which I downloaded from some place I could not remember anymore, maybe some freeware collection. PSTHRU.EXE implements DECnet PMR (Poor's Man Routing), i.e. the ability to specify a route directly in the connection string, that was especially useful when dealing with hidden areas because it relieved both users and system managers from the need to have accounts on any intermediate system(s). In simpler words it allows for things like the following: $ SET HOST GATEWY::OTHRGW::HIDDEN:: With the exception of FAL and MAIL, whenever DECnet finds that a connection string to some remote network object contains a list of nodes rather than just one, it redirects that connection request to object 123 on the leftmost node of the list. There, PSTHRU forwards the connection to the next node on the list (either to object 123 or to the actual intended object, depending on how many nodes are left to be passed through), and so on until the source could be connected to its intended target. For different reasons both FAL and MAIL have their own way of doing PMR and thus do not require PSTHRU or anything similar for it to work. Now the question is: does anyone have the source of PSTHRU.EXE (does it exist at all?) and/or does anyone have an Alpha version of that image? Also, by looking at a dump of PSTHRU.EXE it appears that it contains some reference to some PSTHRU.DAT, so another question is: does anyone know how to use it? I suspect that it could be a file where complex paths could be listed so that one wouldn't have to remember all of them... Thanks! G.

6 years, 3 months

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DECnet Phase-V usage within HECnet

by steve＠davidson.net

Anyone using DECnet Phase-V on VAX/VMS V7.3 in the HECnet community? I am rebuilding SGC::. It is MUCH bigger and faster so I may go the Phase-V route if it has any real value. Comments? Thanks! -Steve

6 years, 4 months

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Re: Welcome to hecnet

by allisonportable＠gmail.com

Hello, Been a few years with an Email address change and a personal change, I'm now retired. Still have a boat load of MicroVAXen both Qbus and 3100 series, Qbus-11s and PDP-8f. Other than that more than a few CP/M boxes. Maybe I can get the bridge going as FIOS, I did that years ago has a stable address. Allison/former mill rat and owner of VIdsys: a former mill/DSG/OGO uVAXII/GPX system.

6 years, 4 months

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VAX Lisp

by Keith.Halewood＠pitbulluk.org

Hi, I've been seeing references to VAX Lisp installation savesets available on CONDIST media (March 1993) through google search but the links go nowhere and the messages are around 7 years old anyway. So... Does anybody have the media I could 'borrow' and the product key, pretty please? There are references to its status being 'retired' like Bliss32. I didn't get a response from HP's hobbyist administrator regarding it being available through them. Hoping someone can help. They have the version I want running at the Living Computers Museum on Rosie which recently moved over from a 780-5 to a 6000-640 but it appears still to be sysgen'd for 24Mb main memory (I'm sure the 6000 has more than that) and my pagefilequota isn't big enough to do the Lisp'ing I want to do and my working set limits would result in a horrendous amount of paging. Hence the need to do it locally. Regards, Keith

6 years, 4 months

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Paging Oleg Safiullin

by supratim＠riseup.net

Thank you Oleg. Exciting to see it appears IMPVAX and CTAKAH are now connected over MULTINET. $ MC NCP SHOW CIRCUIT TCP-0-99 CHAR Circuit Volatile Characteristics as of 24-FEB-2019 04:39:10 Circuit = TCP-0-99 State = on Service = enabled Cost = 1 Hello timer = 15 Verification = disabled Adjacent node = 62.637 (CTAKAH) Listen timer = 30 $ MC NCP TELL CTAKAH SHOW ACTIVE CIRCUITS Active Circuit Volatile Summary as of 24-FEB-2019 04:39:23 Circuit State Loopback Adjacent Name Routing Node UNA-0 on 62.5 (BOPOHA) UNA-0 62.17 (CCCP) DL-0 on 62.11 (KYPEBO) IP-0-0 on 1.13 (MIM) IP-0-1 on -starting IP-0-2 on -starting IP-0-3 on 1.559 (IMPVAX) $ Best wishes, Supratim On 2/23/19 10:51 PM, Oleg Safiullin wrote: > I'm not sure if I can send to hecnet@ from @pdp-11.online, so this is a > copy of message :) > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [HECnet] Paging Oleg Safiullin > To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE > References: <93bff4d0-e201-b1f3-7ea8-2dc37d4ae144 at riseup.net> > From: Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.online> > Message-ID: <3f99da27-1e45-3093-beed-ef1bc2878271 at pdp-11.online> > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:47:44 +0700 > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 > Thunderbird/60.5.1 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > In-Reply-To: <93bff4d0-e201-b1f3-7ea8-2dc37d4ae144 at riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > Content-Language: en-US > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On 24-Feb-2019 2:59, Supratim Sanyal wrote: >> Hi Oleg, > > Hi! > >> If possible, I would like to set up a MULTINET link to CTAKAH. On this >> side, it will be IMPVAX (52.23.221.223, 1.559). > > No problems :) > Just connect via TCP to pdp-11.online:700 > > WBR > //form -- Sent from a Compaq CQ61 running Linux Mint Tessa - Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style Ain't got no gal to make you smile Don't worry, be happy - Bobby McFerrin

6 years, 4 months

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Paging Oleg Safiullin

by supratim＠riseup.net

Hi Oleg, If possible, I would like to set up a MULTINET link to CTAKAH. On this side, it will be IMPVAX (52.23.221.223, 1.559). By the way, Novosibirsk looked very beautiful in the night when our Moscow-Chita train pulled up around 4 AM. Thank you, Supratim -- Sent from a Compaq CQ61 running Linux Mint Tessa - Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style Ain't got no gal to make you smile Don't worry, be happy - Bobby McFerrin

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