HECnet May 2013

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Phone company (US) and DEC hardware and the mainframe

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

I don't know anything about billing but the ESS and newer switches all had Datakit interfaces. Back in the mid-90s I supported systems that did traffic analysis of phone switches (mainly for capacity planning) via the Datakit network. The original systems were 3b2 boxes and the new replacement machines were SPARCstation 20 boxes. The products were COER [0] that ran on the 3b2 and TDMS [1] on the SS20. The source code to COER was missing which made dealing with bugs fun. Especially as it had a bad habit of corrupting its own db randomly. -brian [0] Central Office Equipment Recording [1] Traffic Data Management System On May 16, 2013, at 1:23, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: Hello! Here's an interesting issue, we all know who created UNIX and its descendants. I do know that it was extended to accommodate the needs of running the phone exchanges that the companies setup to use the ESS and its relatives. But wasn't there a story floating around that they had worked out how to have the phone companies systems to communicate the necessary billing specs to an ordinary IBM system, who'd eventually create the bills? (Or even had the same DEC hardware who ran the phone system, do the billing itself?) Basically the story thus told contains a heck of a lot of holes, and in here I'm hoping that someone does know the details. Running those systems now must be quite an accomplishment now though. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

11 years, 6 months

Phone company (US) and DEC hardware and the mainframe

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Here's an interesting issue, we all know who created UNIX and its descendants. I do know that it was extended to accommodate the needs of running the phone exchanges that the companies setup to use the ESS and its relatives. But wasn't there a story floating around that they had worked out how to have the phone companies systems to communicate the necessary billing specs to an ordinary IBM system, who'd eventually create the bills? (Or even had the same DEC hardware who ran the phone system, do the billing itself?) Basically the story thus told contains a heck of a lot of holes, and in here I'm hoping that someone does know the details. Running those systems now must be quite an accomplishment now though. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

11 years, 6 months

HECnet Cisco

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2013, Tim Sneddon wrote: Hi Cory, There was a config update that went out on Tuesday for change in address of your router. I do the update manually as I run a DECbrouter and IOS 10.3. I hadn't got round to the change, but it is up now and I can see all GRE/IP tunnels 50-53 that are configured on my router. I can also ping 9.1. Ah. I see your tunnel up now. *12 20 1 Tunnel57 -> 12.1023 35 64 A+ You should be able to ping 12.3, 12.2 or 12.1023 from your end I can. Looks like I just need to script the TunnelBroker update (or remove it entirely...I think that's what I'm going to do) and automate the dynamic IP update for gewt.ath.cx It'd be nice if the daemon I had running to do that was actually working... Thanks! Regards, Tim. Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Evening all, Something up with the configs? My tunnels are in the "Up" state...but none of them are coming up. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments Hello! Haven't you heard? Your daemon lost his stake. He's now out, you should be getting one soon with better lobes soon. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

11 years, 6 months

HECnet Cisco

by b4＠gewt.net

On Wed, 16 May 2013, Tim Sneddon wrote: Hi Cory, There was a config update that went out on Tuesday for change in address of your router. I do the update manually as I run a DECbrouter and IOS 10.3. I hadn't got round to the change, but it is up now and I can see all GRE/IP tunnels 50-53 that are configured on my router. I can also ping 9.1. Ah. I see your tunnel up now. *12 20 1 Tunnel57 -> 12.1023 35 64 A+ You should be able to ping 12.3, 12.2 or 12.1023 from your end I can. Looks like I just need to script the TunnelBroker update (or remove it entirely...I think that's what I'm going to do) and automate the dynamic IP update for gewt.ath.cx It'd be nice if the daemon I had running to do that was actually working... Thanks! Regards, Tim. Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Evening all, Something up with the configs? My tunnels are in the "Up" state...but none of them are coming up. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

11 years, 6 months

HECnet Cisco

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote: Hi Cory, There was a config update that went out on Tuesday for change in address of your router. I do the update manually as I run a DECbrouter and IOS 10.3. I hadn't got round to the change, but it is up now and I can see all GRE/IP tunnels 50-53 that are configured on my router. I can also ping 9.1. You should be able to ping 12.3, 12.2 or 12.1023 from your end Regards, Tim. Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Evening all, Something up with the configs? My tunnels are in the "Up" state...but none of them are coming up. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments Hello! That should do it. --- And the Cybermen invade that part of the state and discover that the individual there is surrounded by technology. They are then confronted by the Daleks. And the Doctor attempts to referee. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

11 years, 6 months

HECnet Cisco

by tim＠sneddon.id.au

Hi Cory, There was a config update that went out on Tuesday for change in address of your router. I do the update manually as I run a DECbrouter and IOS 10.3. I hadn't got round to the change, but it is up now and I can see all GRE/IP tunnels 50-53 that are configured on my router. I can also ping 9.1. You should be able to ping 12.3, 12.2 or 12.1023 from your end Regards, Tim. Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Evening all, Something up with the configs? My tunnels are in the "Up" state...but none of them are coming up. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

11 years, 6 months

HECnet Cisco

by b4＠gewt.net

On Wed, 16 May 2013, Gregg Levine wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Evening all, Something up with the configs? My tunnels are in the "Up" state...but none of them are coming up. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments Hello! First things first, try resetting the box. If that doesn't work, also try resetting what's connected to it. Second thing is exactly what just what you've done, ask here. It's probably something where your tunnels are attached. Who are you connected to? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." I'm connected to a couple people. I've already reset the cisco instance itself. ...and now it's working now that I've changed the endpoint for my IPv6 tunnel. Are they seriouslly blocking operations?... -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

11 years, 6 months

HECnet Cisco

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Evening all, Something up with the configs? My tunnels are in the "Up" state...but none of them are coming up. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments Hello! First things first, try resetting the box. If that doesn't work, also try resetting what's connected to it. Second thing is exactly what just what you've done, ask here. It's probably something where your tunnels are attached. Who are you connected to? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

11 years, 6 months

Re: TOPS-10 and DECnet Progress Update

by b4＠gewt.net

On Wed, 16 May 2013, G. wrote: On Thu, 16 May 2013 00:49:07 -0000, you wrote: NCP>set nod 1.13 name mim NCP> 20:48:02 --NCP is not running-- It's just not running. ..r galkil *Killing all GALAXY jobs* Job 17 logged out Job 18 logged out Job 2 logged out Job 11 logged out Job 12 logged out Job 16 logged out Job 7 logged out Job 14 logged out Do you want GALAXY restarted (Y or N) ?Y EXIT Then wait a few seconds to allow it do to its thing, then try again... G. Now I can't RUN OPR. ;) -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

11 years, 6 months

HECnet Cisco

by b4＠gewt.net

Evening all, Something up with the configs? My tunnels are in the "Up" state...but none of them are coming up. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

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