On 5.3.2013 13:17, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kari_Uusim=E4ki?= <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> writes:
It is called PowerTerm and it was included in the last Pathworks 32 kits.
It is produced by Ericom. An Israeli company, indeed.
Ericom is Headquartered here in Closter, New Jersey.
I won't argue, but I assume you mean the US Headquarters.
If you look at the Ericom's management page, there's definitive evidence about the Israeli origin.
You can still buy it from Ericom's resellers. Nowadays, it is called
PowerTerm Interconnect.
Btw. It is a lot cheaper than e.g. Reflection.
But their support and responsiveness to problems is poor. I tried to
get the PowerTerm for Linux to pass some of the more basic VTTEST and
their support never bothered to even respond other than the automated
"we've received your support request" emails.
I'm surprised!
Last year we were working on a MPE (HP3000) project and found a bug in PowerTerm (HP 700 emulation). When I reported it to the Ericom support, I got an answer the next day and the issue was fixed in a week.
I've been using PowerTerm since it became a part of the Pathworks 32 kit and never had issues. Maybe I am not a real power user since I use it for regular system management, as a console terminal for VAXen, Alphas and many other RISC machines plus console connections to (DEC and other brands) network equipment.
I cannot tell anything about the Linux version, because I've not tested it. Just the windows version.
Yep. From the FAQ:
The emulation level for xterm is set via the resource decTerminalID, e.g., to 220 for a VT220. Once set, applications can set the emulation level up or down within that limit. DEC's terminals are configured in much the same way by a setup option.
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-03-05 16:35, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
On 2013-03-05 15:16, Clem Cole wrote:
Keith was one of the original xterm authors and part of the original
Project Athena at MIT & DEC. Sadly, what I recall seems to be correct
for an open source version of SIXEL.
Fyi. A friend of mine have hacked in sixel support in xterm, but I don't
think he considers it good enough for general release yet.
And xterm is still the best VT100 emulator out there.
Maybe VT100. It fails some simple VT200 series and later escape sequences.
There's one particularly annoying trait that causes me to have to "refresh"
whenever I use the VMS symbolic debugger. DECterm doesn't have this issue.
Hmm. You can enable the VT200 functions in xterm, but I seem to remember that you explicitly have to do it. It has (so far in my experience) also been flawless, with the exception that it does not support the soft font.
Johnny
On 2013-03-05 16:35, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
On 2013-03-05 15:16, Clem Cole wrote:
Keith was one of the original xterm authors and part of the original
Project Athena at MIT & DEC. Sadly, what I recall seems to be correct
for an open source version of SIXEL.
Fyi. A friend of mine have hacked in sixel support in xterm, but I don't
think he considers it good enough for general release yet.
And xterm is still the best VT100 emulator out there.
Maybe VT100. It fails some simple VT200 series and later escape sequences.
There's one particularly annoying trait that causes me to have to "refresh"
whenever I use the VMS symbolic debugger. DECterm doesn't have this issue.
Hmm. You can enable the VT200 functions in xterm, but I seem to remember that you explicitly have to do it. It has (so far in my experience) also been flawless, with the exception that it does not support the soft font.
Johnny
On 5 Mar 2013, at 17:35, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Maybe VT100. It fails some simple VT200 series and later escape sequences.
There's one particularly annoying trait that causes me to have to "refresh"
whenever I use the VMS symbolic debugger. DECterm doesn't have this issue.
Wonder if we could get the DECterm Tru64 sources from somewhere - and run it natively that way.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
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Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
On 2013-03-05 15:16, Clem Cole wrote:
Keith was one of the original xterm authors and part of the original
Project Athena at MIT & DEC. Sadly, what I recall seems to be correct
for an open source version of SIXEL.
Fyi. A friend of mine have hacked in sixel support in xterm, but I don't
think he considers it good enough for general release yet.
And xterm is still the best VT100 emulator out there.
Maybe VT100. It fails some simple VT200 series and later escape sequences.
There's one particularly annoying trait that causes me to have to "refresh"
whenever I use the VMS symbolic debugger. DECterm doesn't have this issue.
--
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On 2013-03-05 15:16, Clem Cole wrote:
Keith was one of the original xterm authors and part of the original
Project Athena at MIT & DEC. Sadly, what I recall seems to be correct
for an open source version of SIXEL.
Fyi. A friend of mine have hacked in sixel support in xterm, but I don't think he considers it good enough for general release yet.
And xterm is still the best VT100 emulator out there.
Johnny
From: Keith Packard
Date: Monday, March 4, 2013 4:55 PM
To: Clement Cole
Subject: Re: Pulling Old Bits from the memory cache
"Cole, Clement T" writes:
Hey Keith,
One of the computer history mailing lists I monitor popped up a
question you might know the answer too. Going back to
your Athena
days, do you know if anyone ever either open sourced DECterm,
and/or put SIXEL/Regis support into something like xterm?
To my
knowledge, xterm never did SIXEL (it did support Tek 4010
/ plot
10).
I've never seen the sources of DECterm, but fwiw, the VT100 emulator in
xterm came from the DEC team who did the 'real' VT100 and, as I recall,
came from a validated VT100 simulator, making it the best VT100
emulation of its era.
xterm certainly never did sixel or regis support before leaving the X
consortium and Thomas Dickey never added it to my knowledge. Knowing a
bit about the internals of xterm, adding sixel support would be a fairly
major restructuring of the code.
-keith
Keith was one of the original xterm authors and part of the original Project Athena at MIT & DEC. Sadly, what I recall seems to be correct for an open source version of SIXEL.
From: Keith Packard
Date: Monday, March 4, 2013 4:55 PM
To: Clement Cole
Subject: Re: Pulling Old Bits from the memory cache
"Cole, Clement T" writes:
Hey Keith,
One of the computer history mailing lists I monitor popped up a
question you might know the answer too. Going back to your Athena
days, do you know if anyone ever either open sourced DECterm,
and/or put SIXEL/Regis support into something like xterm? To my
knowledge, xterm never did SIXEL (it did support Tek 4010 / plot
10).
I've never seen the sources of DECterm, but fwiw, the VT100 emulator in
xterm came from the DEC team who did the 'real' VT100 and, as I recall,
came from a validated VT100 simulator, making it the best VT100
emulation of its era.
xterm certainly never did sixel or regis support before leaving the X
consortium and Thomas Dickey never added it to my knowledge. Knowing a
bit about the internals of xterm, adding sixel support would be a fairly
major restructuring of the code.
-keith
On 2013-03-05 10:20, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 5 Mar 2013, at 11:13, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 5 Mar 2013, at 11:11, Kari Uusim ki <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote:
It is called PowerTerm and it was included in the last Pathworks 32 kits.
It is produced by Ericom. An Israeli company, indeed.
You can still buy it from Ericom's resellers. Nowadays, it is called PowerTerm Interconnect.
Btw. It is a lot cheaper than e.g. Reflection.
Kari
I've got PowerTerm 525 on the NT box I installed Pathworks 32 on - but I've never seen it do graphics.
sampsa
Do any of the terminal modes listed here do graphics:
http://i45.tinypic.com/28i4x3o.jpg
No.
Johnny
On 2013-03-05 10:13, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 5 Mar 2013, at 11:11, Kari Uusim ki <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote:
It is called PowerTerm and it was included in the last Pathworks 32 kits.
It is produced by Ericom. An Israeli company, indeed.
You can still buy it from Ericom's resellers. Nowadays, it is called PowerTerm Interconnect.
Btw. It is a lot cheaper than e.g. Reflection.
Kari
I've got PowerTerm 525 on the NT box I installed Pathworks 32 on - but I've never seen it do graphics.
That is because it don't. Just what I said a few posts back. It's a VT525 emulation. The VT525 don't do graphics.
The last DEC terminal to do graphics was the VT340.
Johnny
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kari_Uusim=E4ki?= <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> writes:
It is called PowerTerm and it was included in the last Pathworks 32 kits.
It is produced by Ericom. An Israeli company, indeed.
Ericom is Headquartered here in Closter, New Jersey.
You can still buy it from Ericom's resellers. Nowadays, it is called
PowerTerm Interconnect.
Btw. It is a lot cheaper than e.g. Reflection.
But their support and responsiveness to problems is poor. I tried to
get the PowerTerm for Linux to pass some of the more basic VTTEST and
their support never bothered to even respond other than the automated
"we've received your support request" emails.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
