On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:42, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too...
----- Original Message -----
| From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net>
| To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
| Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM
| Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25
|
|
| On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
| wrote:
|
| > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
| >> Mark,
| >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to
| >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online.
| >>
| >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died.
| >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The
| >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't
| >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases
| >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any
| >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone
| >> here has tried?
| >>
| >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just
| >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add
| >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered.
| > They never make life easy do they?
| >
| > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now!
|
| At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings,
| boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some
| machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the
| battery is dead.
|
| Ian
|
|
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments
Hello!
This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty
of things to work with, because it wants to leave... ..
Unfortunately not. ;)
It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error.
Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their
business and leave the area......
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hello!
Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a
normal climate.
I understand. Rivers catch fire here.
Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their
business and leave the area......
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too...
----- Original Message -----
| From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net>
| To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
| Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM
| Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25
|
|
| On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
| wrote:
|
| > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
| >> Mark,
| >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to
| >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online.
| >>
| >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died.
| >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The
| >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't
| >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases
| >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any
| >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone
| >> here has tried?
| >>
| >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just
| >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add
| >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered.
| > They never make life easy do they?
| >
| > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now!
|
| At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings,
| boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some
| machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the
| battery is dead.
|
| Ian
|
|
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments
Hello!
This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty
of things to work with, because it wants to leave... ..
Unfortunately not. ;)
It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error.
Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their
business and leave the area......
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hello!
Hmmm. I arranged that. Yes it wants to leave. It wants to work in a
normal climate.
Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their
business and leave the area......
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 1 Mar 2013, at 19:38, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too...
----- Original Message -----
| From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net>
| To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
| Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM
| Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25
|
|
| On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
| wrote:
|
| > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
| >> Mark,
| >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to
| >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online.
| >>
| >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died.
| >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The
| >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't
| >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases
| >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any
| >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone
| >> here has tried?
| >>
| >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just
| >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add
| >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered.
| > They never make life easy do they?
| >
| > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now!
|
| At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings,
| boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some
| machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the
| battery is dead.
|
| Ian
|
|
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments
Hello!
This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty
of things to work with, because it wants to leave... ..
Unfortunately not. ;)
It also does not explain why despotify is giving me a Bus error.
Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their
business and leave the area......
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too...
----- Original Message -----
| From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net>
| To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
| Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM
| Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25
|
|
| On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
| wrote:
|
| > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
| >> Mark,
| >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to
| >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online.
| >>
| >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died.
| >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The
| >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't
| >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases
| >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any
| >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone
| >> here has tried?
| >>
| >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just
| >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add
| >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered.
| > They never make life easy do they?
| >
| > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now!
|
| At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings,
| boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some
| machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the
| battery is dead.
|
| Ian
|
|
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments
Hello!
This does not explain why your Netra just ordered six feet and plenty
of things to work with, because it wants to leave........
Dave stop staring at that car. The occupants want to finish their
business and leave the area......
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
My Netra that functions as my router has a dead battery and she still runs fine. More stable than when my router was in a VM, too...
----- Original Message -----
| From: "Ian McLaughlin" <ian at platinum.net>
| To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
| Sent: Friday, 1 March, 2013 4:58:53 PM
| Subject: Re: [HECnet] Personal DECstation 5000/25
|
|
| On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
| wrote:
|
| > On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
| >> Mark,
| >> I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to
| >> seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online.
| >>
| >> As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died.
| >> Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The
| >> original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't
| >> tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases
| >> the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any
| >> discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone
| >> here has tried?
| >>
| >> I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just
| >> underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add
| >> a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered.
| > They never make life easy do they?
| >
| > I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now!
|
| At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings,
| boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some
| machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the
| battery is dead.
|
| Ian
|
|
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
http://dev.gimme-sympathy.org Home experiments
On 2013-03-01, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Mark,
I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online.
As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone here has tried?
I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered.
They never make life easy do they?
I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now!
At least this machine lets me still play. I can change settings, boot the machine, etc. It just forgets them when I power off. Some machines will just totally lock up and refuse to operate when the battery is dead.
Ian
On 01/03/2013 17:02, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Mark,
I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online.
As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone here has tried?
I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered.
They never make life easy do they?
I'm guessing my 5000/240 probably needs a new battery by now!
Mark,
I've grabbed the image from you - thanks! I look forward to seeing the patches also, once you've got slave online.
As with most hardware this age, the clock battery has died. Unfortunately, this module is soldered to the motherboard. The original module is a DS1287. I have a DS12887 spare, but I can't tell if it's compatible without soldering it in. In most cases the DS12887 is a suitable replacement, but I can't find any discussion of anyone trying in a DECstation. Any chance anyone here has tried?
I would normally install a socket, but this module lives just underneath the CPU board, and there's not enough clearance to add a socket. Whatever replacement goes in will have to be soldered.
Ian
On 2013-02-28, at 11:57 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
This is great! Do you happen to have the Y2K patches? From what I have read, 4.4 and 4.5 were issued Y2K patches.
The primary date-related patch is for the 'date' command - the kernel handles dates just find, and yes you can use the 'set time to 31st Dec 23:59' and let it roll over a year to advance the date through to 2013 if you have the patience!
I've uploaded 4.4 to http://www.wickensonline.co.uk/OpenVMS/Ultrix/UltrixRiscAndUwsV4.4SuppUnsup…
Username: openvms, password: uptime
I will upload the layered products as/when I get time.
I'm due to give http://slave.hecnet.eu a run up today which contains all my patches - I'll send another email with a link to the Ultrix patches directory. I do have the original disk so will try and find the time to take a scan of the top, but I've been saying that about the whole collection for quite a while now!
However, I haven't been completely sitting on my hands ;)
Last year I wrote a good portion of a java web application which is able to apply semantic web techniques for searching the DECUS archive. This is a great resource for code examples in many of the VMS-supported programming languages. So far I have classified most of the VMS-specific file types using the Java 7 custom mime-type hook and am now able, for example, to search for DCL files within the DECUS archive for a specific lexical call. My plan is to extend this to system library calls for all common calling standard languages. The cataloging side is done I just need to add some umph to the results (hyperlinking everything together).
Regards, Mark.
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> This is great! Do you happen to have the Y2K patches? From what I have read, 4.4 and 4.5 were issued Y2K patches.
The primary date-related patch is for the 'date' command - the kernel handles dates just find, and yes you can use the 'set time to 31st Dec 23:59' and let it roll over a year to advance the date through to 2013 if you have the patience!
I've uploaded 4.4 to http://www.wickensonline.co.uk/OpenVMS/Ultrix/UltrixRiscAndUwsV4.4SuppUnsup…
Username: openvms, password: uptime
I will upload the layered products as/when I get time.
I'm due to give http://slave.hecnet.eu a run up today which contains all my patches - I'll send another email with a link to the Ultrix patches directory. I do have the original disk so will try and find the time to take a scan of the top, but I've been saying that about the whole collection for quite a while now!
However, I haven't been completely sitting on my hands ;)
Last year I wrote a good portion of a java web application which is able to apply semantic web techniques for searching the DECUS archive. This is a great resource for code examples in many of the VMS-supported programming languages. So far I have classified most of the VMS-specific file types using the Java 7 custom mime-type hook and am now able, for example, to search for DCL files within the DECUS archive for a specific lexical call. My plan is to extend this to system library calls for all common calling standard languages. The cataloging side is done I just need to add some umph to the results (hyperlinking everything together).
Regards, Mark.
