See my comments below.
This is what I bought for my own VM servers:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us…
HP DL360 Gen 5. I have two I got on Ebay. Total cost about $1100 US. If my Pounds/Dollar conversion is about right, that's about the same as the DL380 you found. Two DL360's would fit in the same 2U rack space and give you some redundancy. Plus a lot more horsepower.
Mine are configured as follows:
2 Intel Xeon Quad core E5345 2.33Ghz processors
16GB memory
6 73GB SAS drives in a RAID 10 (3 mirrors, striped over the mirror) which yields me about 200GB space.
I run VMWare ESXi 5 on both. Why? Because it's free, it works reasonably well and I'm lazy. It would probably be more efficient to put a stripped Linux and VirtualBox but it's nice to be able to just create a VM with a few measly clicks. The downside is that I have to run the VMWare vSphere Client on a Windows platform. In this case it's Windows 7 running on my Mac Pro inside a VMWare Fusion VM.
John H. Reinhardt
On 1/22/2013 9:13 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Actually, I think I'll go for something like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Proliant-DL380-G5-2x-Quad-Core-Xeon-2-66Ghz-32…
Could probably run a few FreeAXP / PersonalAlpha instances on that too.
With the 32GB memory (expensive, compare the Ebay prices for 16GB) you'd have plenty to throw at VM's and with 8 cores, plenty of those, too. A tad expensive, but decent machines. The HP Proliants aren't bad for PC's
sampsa
On 23 Jan 2013, at 04:03, Cory Smelosky<b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 22 Jan 2013, at 21:00, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Guys,
I've decided to move out of the UK but will keep all the machines in area 8 running by renting a 1/3rd rack from a colo provider.
At the moment I have an iMac running a bunch of VM's and SIMH instances including GORVAX that I was thinking about replacing with a 2U server, and found this on eBay:
For some reason i'm imagining you coloing an iMac G4 ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-SE1102-Twin-Quad-Core-2-5Ghz-12GB-RAM-1U-SATA-…
Would that make a decent VMWare / SIMH host?
Not a bad system. Might want a bit more memory, depending on how many VM you plan to run. It's got a lot of cores to spread around though.
Seems okay, but: http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/386355-2 Cluster 'em and grab RAM for them. ;)
Not as good. Older processor, single core. You'd need 6-8 of these to equal the # of cores as the HP. More rack space, electricity, cooling and costs more.
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is.
You could get a nasty C&D letter from them...
I've discussed this with Sampsa offline.
Is this list publicly archived?
Nope.
On 01/23/2013 02:18 AM, Gregg Levine wrote:
Other then that has that Dalek and his entourage arrived yet?
Yes.
I ate them.
I had missed dinner.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/23/2013 02:06 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
El 23/01/2013, a les 3:37, sampsa at mac.com va escriure:
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is
obviously a must.
Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is.
You could get a nasty C&D letter from them...
I've discussed this with Sampsa offline.
Is this list publicly archived?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
That really depends. Do you mean do our messages show up when one of
us (who does not use Google Mail) needs to find something in a darned
hurry and uses regular Google to find it using the usual keywords?
I don't know. We'd need to wait and see what Johnny responds with later today.
Other then that has that Dalek and his entourage arrived yet?
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 01/23/2013 02:06 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
El 23/01/2013, a les 3:37, sampsa at mac.com va escriure:
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is
obviously a must.
Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is.
You could get a nasty C&D letter from them...
I've discussed this with Sampsa offline.
Is this list publicly archived?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa
El 23/01/2013, a les 3:37, sampsa at mac.com va escriure:
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is obviously a must.
Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is. You could get a nasty C&D letter from them...
CP/M
Log in to CHIMPY as CPMOTRON - it'll connect you to my CP/M-instances-for-everyone service, basically you get your own little CP/M box to play with, hard drives and all.
sampsa
On 22 Jan 2013, at 21:37, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I didn't. And from what they tell me, that knowledge is now IN my
brain, and I cannot get those neurons back.
-Dave
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is obviously a must.
FreeDOS, DR-DOS, ProDOS, NetWare, MS-DOS, CP/M of RedHat 9.
This box's mission is to run the bridge and GORVAX, so there'll be plenty of room for other fun stuff.
I am also putting a copy of the bridge and a minimal VMS + MULTINET config on a Raspberry Pi that I'm sticking in the rack, to be booted up if the big server goes down.
Sampsa
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
I didn't. And from what they tell me, that knowledge is now IN my
brain, and I cannot get those neurons back.
-Dave
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is obviously a must.
This box's mission is to run the bridge and GORVAX, so there'll be plenty of room for other fun stuff.
I am also putting a copy of the bridge and a minimal VMS + MULTINET config on a Raspberry Pi that I'm sticking in the rack, to be booted up if the big server goes down.
Sampsa
On 22 Jan 2013, at 21:33, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/22/2013 09:31 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Is that a proper Xeon or a P4 Xeon?
No idea..But yeah, I'm going to get a beefy server with serious internet access (the place provides a gigabit pipe) for running various fun stuff on. Of course if other HECnet users have an idea for a cool project to run as a VM on the server, that'd be fun too.
Will you let me run NT 4 TSE on it? ;)
I'd love NT 4 on a gigabit pipe...
It's a sickness.
I'm not too fond of windows past NT 4 for anything other than an occasional game. ;) I'd call it more masochism to be honest. I DID recently install it on a Pentium 4 though. ;) (Did you know it won't boot on a P4 HT?)
I didn't. And from what they tell me, that knowledge is now IN my
brain, and I cannot get those neurons back.
;)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
