Yeah.. I can't even use my 6 146GB SAS drives.. thin provisioning and text files have gone a long way there... it causes me stress to try to keep it all archived and indexed... :-p
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 08:01, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
At this post-rate, you may need to move the list-archive to Sampsa's 12TB data-warehouse (... errrr 6TB if he's *wasting* disk on R10 :) )....
My data-warehouse is only 5TB after RAID...9 before.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-01-23 08:14, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/23/2013 02:06 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
El 23/01/2013, a les 3:37, sampsa at mac.com va escriure:
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is
obviously a must.
Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is.
You could get a nasty C&D letter from them...
I've discussed this with Sampsa offline.
Is this list publicly archived?
All the messages are kept, but currently there is no way for a random person to get to the archive.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Thanks Hans ;-)
Brett
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Three white box Alpha's will run VMS along with NT 4: the Digital Server 3300, 5305 and the 7305.
The modification is found on home.zonnet.nl/hvlems and look for White Box Alpha's.
The 5305 won't run True64 though.
Hans
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 04:49:22
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/22/2013 09:31 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Is that a proper Xeon or a P4 Xeon?
No idea..But yeah, I'm going to get a beefy server with serious internet access (the place provides a gigabit pipe) for running various fun stuff on. Of course if other HECnet users have an idea for a cool project to run as a VM on the server, that'd be fun too.
Will you let me run NT 4 TSE on it? ;)
I'd love NT 4 on a gigabit pipe...
It's a sickness.
I'm not too fond of windows past NT 4 for anything other than an occasional game. ;) I'd call it more masochism to be honest. I DID recently install it on a Pentium 4 though. ;) (Did you know it won't boot on a P4 HT?)
I didn't. And from what they tell me, that knowledge is now IN my
brain, and I cannot get those neurons back.
-Dave
I think Dave has a few extra neurons to spare. And if he can't get these
back they must be core instead of dynamic. I think I'll see if we can get
him to exhibit a RSTS "?Program lost, sorry" message.
I still have 2 DECServer 3300's (Alpha's) that I installed NT4 TSE on some
time back before the turn of the century. Dastardly slow, but the only
platform I had at the time at home to practice on to get Citrix certified.
They really ran FreeBSD nice though, and since I had loaded 4 drives in
each one, I think I also had copies of NetBSD and Linux (loaded via Milo).
I wish they had been able to run VMS, alas they were the white elephants.
They wouldn't run FreeBSD V4, until we stole a patch from the NetBSD boys.
Brett
On 23 Jan 2013, at 08:01, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
At this post-rate, you may need to move the list-archive to Sampsa's 12TB data-warehouse (... errrr 6TB if he's *wasting* disk on R10 :) )....
My data-warehouse is only 5TB after RAID...9 before.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-01-23 08:14, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/23/2013 02:06 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
El 23/01/2013, a les 3:37, sampsa at mac.com va escriure:
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is
obviously a must.
Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is.
You could get a nasty C&D letter from them...
I've discussed this with Sampsa offline.
Is this list publicly archived?
All the messages are kept, but currently there is no way for a random person to get to the archive.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Three white box Alpha's will run VMS along with NT 4: the Digital Server 3300, 5305 and the 7305.
The modification is found on home.zonnet.nl/hvlems and look for White Box Alpha's.
The 5305 won't run True64 though.
Hans
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From: Brett Bump <bbump at rsts.org>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 04:49:22
To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Sort of off-topic, co-locating area 8
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/22/2013 09:31 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Is that a proper Xeon or a P4 Xeon?
No idea..But yeah, I'm going to get a beefy server with serious internet access (the place provides a gigabit pipe) for running various fun stuff on. Of course if other HECnet users have an idea for a cool project to run as a VM on the server, that'd be fun too.
Will you let me run NT 4 TSE on it? ;)
I'd love NT 4 on a gigabit pipe...
It's a sickness.
I'm not too fond of windows past NT 4 for anything other than an occasional game. ;) I'd call it more masochism to be honest. I DID recently install it on a Pentium 4 though. ;) (Did you know it won't boot on a P4 HT?)
I didn't. And from what they tell me, that knowledge is now IN my
brain, and I cannot get those neurons back.
-Dave
I think Dave has a few extra neurons to spare. And if he can't get these
back they must be core instead of dynamic. I think I'll see if we can get
him to exhibit a RSTS "?Program lost, sorry" message.
I still have 2 DECServer 3300's (Alpha's) that I installed NT4 TSE on some
time back before the turn of the century. Dastardly slow, but the only
platform I had at the time at home to practice on to get Citrix certified.
They really ran FreeBSD nice though, and since I had loaded 4 drives in
each one, I think I also had copies of NetBSD and Linux (loaded via Milo).
I wish they had been able to run VMS, alas they were the white elephants.
They wouldn't run FreeBSD V4, until we stole a patch from the NetBSD boys.
Brett
On 23 Jan 2013, at 15:01, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
At this post-rate, you may need to move the list-archive to Sampsa's 12TB data-warehouse (... errrr 6TB if he's *wasting* disk on R10 :) )....
I know you're kidding but I'd be happy to set up some kind of archive (accessible to members of HECnet only, of course) on the system once it's up.
sampsa
At this post-rate, you may need to move the list-archive to Sampsa's 12TB data-warehouse (... errrr 6TB if he's *wasting* disk on R10 :) )....
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-01-23 08:14, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/23/2013 02:06 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
El 23/01/2013, a les 3:37, sampsa at mac.com va escriure:
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is
obviously a must.
Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is.
You could get a nasty C&D letter from them...
I've discussed this with Sampsa offline.
Is this list publicly archived?
All the messages are kept, but currently there is no way for a random person to get to the archive.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2013-01-23 08:14, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/23/2013 02:06 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
El 23/01/2013, a les 3:37, sampsa at mac.com va escriure:
Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is
obviously a must.
Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is.
You could get a nasty C&D letter from them...
I've discussed this with Sampsa offline.
Is this list publicly archived?
All the messages are kept, but currently there is no way for a random person to get to the archive.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
6 73GB SAS drives in a RAID 10 (3 mirrors, striped over the mirror) which yields me about 200GB space.
I think I'm probably going to sacrifice the SAS speed for the larger storage you get with SATA drives, 6x2 TB drives should make a nice array..
sampsa
On 1/23/2013 6:49 AM, Brett Bump wrote:
I think Dave has a few extra neurons to spare. And if he can't get these back they must be core instead of dynamic. I think I'll see if we can get him to exhibit a RSTS "?Program lost, sorry" message.
I still have 2 DECServer 3300's (Alpha's) that I installed NT4 TSE on some time back before the turn of the century. Dastardly slow, but the only platform I had at the time at home to practice on to get Citrix certified.
They really ran FreeBSD nice though, and since I had loaded 4 drives in each one, I think I also had copies of NetBSD and Linux (loaded via Milo).
I wish they had been able to run VMS, alas they were the white elephants.
They wouldn't run FreeBSD V4, until we stole a patch from the NetBSD boys.
Brett
Technically the name is Digital Server 3300R. It's the "white box" equivalent to the Alpha Server 800. I have two of the 800's and when I bought a 500Mhz processor board for one (to replace the 333Mhz) it apparently is hardcoded in ROM or NVRAM on the board since it now identifies itself as a Digital Server instead of an Alphaserver in the SRM. But it still runs VMS okay. ;)
I also have a Digital Server 5300 which I patched the NVRAM so it would boot VMS. Matches the Alphaserver 1200 except it's all white.
Not too bad once they get booted.
John H. Reinhardt
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/22/2013 09:31 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Is that a proper Xeon or a P4 Xeon?
No idea..But yeah, I'm going to get a beefy server with serious internet access (the place provides a gigabit pipe) for running various fun stuff on. Of course if other HECnet users have an idea for a cool project to run as a VM on the server, that'd be fun too.
Will you let me run NT 4 TSE on it? ;)
I'd love NT 4 on a gigabit pipe...
It's a sickness.
I'm not too fond of windows past NT 4 for anything other than an occasional game. ;) I'd call it more masochism to be honest. I DID recently install it on a Pentium 4 though. ;) (Did you know it won't boot on a P4 HT?)
I didn't. And from what they tell me, that knowledge is now IN my
brain, and I cannot get those neurons back.
-Dave
I think Dave has a few extra neurons to spare. And if he can't get these back they must be core instead of dynamic. I think I'll see if we can get him to exhibit a RSTS "?Program lost, sorry" message.
I still have 2 DECServer 3300's (Alpha's) that I installed NT4 TSE on some time back before the turn of the century. Dastardly slow, but the only platform I had at the time at home to practice on to get Citrix certified.
They really ran FreeBSD nice though, and since I had loaded 4 drives in each one, I think I also had copies of NetBSD and Linux (loaded via Milo).
I wish they had been able to run VMS, alas they were the white elephants.
They wouldn't run FreeBSD V4, until we stole a patch from the NetBSD boys.
Brett
