HECnet January 2013

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by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Of course, that'd be a way to make use of them. Thanks for the tip Brian. ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] My newest toy Verzonden: 23 januari 2013 00:23 "H Vlems" <hvlems at zonnet.nl> writes: Well, I bought four KZPCA-CA SE controllers on eBay and was shipped four KZPBA-CY units in stead. Not sure yest what they are (I think HVD) but definitely not SE. Luckiliy the vendor is very cooperative and offered a full refund. Perhaps the -CY may be used for a SCSI cluster? Hans You can use it with an HSZ50/70. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

13 years

My newest toy

by system＠TMESIS.COM

"H Vlems" <hvlems at zonnet.nl> writes: Well, I bought four KZPCA-CA SE controllers on eBay and was shipped four KZPBA-CY units in stead. Not sure yest what they are (I think HVD) but definitely not SE. Luckiliy the vendor is very cooperative and offered a full refund. Perhaps the -CY may be used for a SCSI cluster? Hans You can use it with an HSZ50/70. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

13 years

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by clemc＠ccc.com

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: I looked around locally for a powerline ethernet device today. Again sorry for the late reply. I too experimented with the powerline gear and have been favorably impressed. I wonder how well is will work when more and more people have them, but I suppose with good low-pass filtering at the point of presence to the house it might not be too bad. As others have spoken about using CAT5e/CAT6, nothing beats a direct wire (as Metcalfe put it - there is never enough ether). But I too had a situation at my son's boarding school in remote New Hampshire where the WiFi was in the common room and in his actual dorm room the signal/noise ratio pretty much went away. Since he had an ethernet port on his MBP, on a lark, I got a set of these and sent them too him. As per my instrux, he put the one with the switch in the common room and single one in his room. It was so successful I had to add switch in his room for roommate. Success love company, and a number of the other students have asked how they did it and we ordered units for their rooms. A cool part is that the school's IT folks called me and now talking about put a master unit in all the common rooms in their dorms and then tell the kids if they want a hardwired connection in their room - here is how. Not bad for $39 for the single side, and $59 for the one with the built in 5 port switch and sure beats the wireless issues. Clem

13 years

My newest toy

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Well, I bought four KZPCA-CA SE controllers on eBay and was shipped four KZPBA-CY units in stead. Not sure yest what they are (I think HVD) but definitely not SE. Luckiliy the vendor is very cooperative and offered a full refund. Perhaps the -CY may be used for a SCSI cluster? Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- Verzonden: zondag, januari 2013 0:31 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] My newest toy hvlems at zonnet.nl writes: Single Ended, 68 pin connector. It's a DDR4 HP storageworks DAT 40. i don't want to use my last spare KZPCM for it ... ------Origineel One of the Qlogic 1020 or 1040 based KZP should be easy and cheap to find. You don't want the KZPBA-CB though as it's HVD. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

13 years

Sample DCL code for simple client-server task-to-task comms

by clemc＠ccc.com

Sorry for the late reply - been OOP There are a number of them. Best discuss I have seen is in this web page: http://jonesrh.info/dcll/dcll_why_i_use.html#Windows_Linux_solutions On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at tmesis.com> wrote: You've got a DCL on Linux. I've never see one. What's it called?

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes: On 2013-01-22 18:06, G. wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote: > >> There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an emulation >> does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I offer >> to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login as >> VTTEST. There is no password. It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm using > PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once before > writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24 terminal size, or > with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or less a 120x60 terminal. > > OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is really > a CRLF where I think it should not: > 0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq 0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq 0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq 0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu 0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[ The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. Note > that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P I believe that is because VMS is wrapping output at 80 characters, and (unfortunately) don't realize that some characters are non-printing, as they are part of escape sequences. So the wrapping happens, even though we're not at column 80 yet. Before one is logged in, it had assumed that the terminal buffer (screen width) was 80 characters. I normally don't use telnet (in fact, VTTEST is the only account that can connect REMOTE with telnet) so I didn't see that the template device was at a default of 80 characters. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-01-22 18:06, G. wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote: There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an emulation does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I offer to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login as VTTEST. There is no password. It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm using PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once before writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24 terminal size, or with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or less a 120x60 terminal. OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is really a CRLF where I think it should not: 0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq 0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq 0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq 0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu 0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[ The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. Note that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P I believe that is because VMS is wrapping output at 80 characters, and (unfortunately) don't realize that some characters are non-printing, as they are part of escape sequences. So the wrapping happens, even though we're not at column 80 yet. Johnny

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by gerry77＠mail.com

On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:33:21 -0500, you wrote: Try it now. The default buffer size for the TNA0: template device is obtained from the SYSGEN parameter TTY_BUF. It was 80 on that system and I've now increased it to 132. That's correct now. And I've learnt something too. :) G.

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 22 Jan 2013, at 12:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: G. <gerry77 at mail.com> writes: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote: There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an = emulation > does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I = offer > to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login= as > VTTEST. There is no password. It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm = using PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once before writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24 terminal size, = or with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or less a 120x60 = terminal. OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is = really a CRLF where I think it should not: 0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq 0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq 0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq 0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu 0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[ The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. = Note that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P HTH, G. Try it now. The default buffer size for the TNA0: template device is obtained from the SYSGEN parameter TTY_BUF. It was 80 on that system and I've now increased it to 132. Muuuuuuuuh nicer now. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

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Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by system＠TMESIS.COM

G. <gerry77 at mail.com> writes: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote: There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an = emulation > does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I = offer > to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login= as > VTTEST. There is no password. It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm = using PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once before writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24 terminal size, = or with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or less a 120x60 = terminal. OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is = really a CRLF where I think it should not: 0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq 0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq 0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq 0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu 0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[ The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. = Note that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P HTH, G. Try it now. The default buffer size for the TNA0: template device is obtained from the SYSGEN parameter TTY_BUF. It was 80 on that system and I've now increased it to 132. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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