Hi,
There's a section on booting in the manual :
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/83final/ba322_90045/apbs05.html
This will let you edit the boot options.
$ @SYS$MANAGER:BOOT_OPTIONS.COM
Dan
On 24 Aug 2011, at 00:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
But there's no magic "set EFI boot flags" to this command from VMS?
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Date: 23 August 2011 20:35:31 GMT+01:00
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
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Sampsa,
I'm not sitting in front of a machine, but I think you may set boot options from:
SYS$UPDATE:BOOT_OPTIONS.COM
Forgive me if this is incorrect... I think you may set flags there as well... but its been a while...
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Is there any way to do this from VMS?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 20:15, Joe Ferraro wrote:
I've just used the following for [no]min boot IA64...
$! CONVERSATIONAL BOOT
$! IA64
EFI> set vms_flags 0,1 $! non-volatile
EFI> exit
$! boot the server
SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 $! don't boot min every-time
SYSBOOT> USE DEFAULT
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" $! use "" to revert to default
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Sampsa,
I believe you can
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 ""
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
to clear the flags...
Joe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
How do I do this on an Itanium?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote:
> Sampsa,
>
> Clear the boot flags.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
>
> I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT>
> prompt every damn time.
>
> How do I turn this off?
>
> Sampsa
>
>
On 2011-08-23 19:59, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Interesting, that a TU56 was supported by VMS. How did that become possible? Is it because the driver for the TU58 also happened to work for the TU56, possibly assisted by some SYSGEN magic to configure UB vector and addresses?
As other have said. There are no similarities between a TU56 and a TU58...
Johnny
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Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:48
I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS?
No, not AFAIK but the RL02 (either on an RL11 or the RB730) was.
But did it work? There were some strange old devices that worked on VMS even though not "supported" -- the TU56 (real DECtape) comes to mind.
paul
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On 2011-08-23 19:41, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
The console RX02 on the 780 wasn't "visible" to VMS. You'd need. MC SYSGEN CONNECT CONSOLE to make that happen.
Right. Also, the console floppy on the 11/780 didn't sit on the "normal" Unibus. I don't know if the FE had an integrated floppy controller, but it might have been a small Qbus in there as well.
I used a PDP-11/40 with RX02's but never actually seen such an interface on a VAX unibus.
They were already going out of fashion when VAXen began to spread.
Very useful to transfer data between systems; this was before ethernet was common, let alone affordable.
An alternative was the RL02. Which became the load device for the PDP-11/23 console in the 8600/8650.
Well, it's not a 11/23, but a T11 (the 11/23 uses the F11 chip). But yes, the 86x0 uses an RL02 for the FE. Much more convenient, since it can hold all of the system, and all of the diagnostics on one pack. With the 11/78x, you had to have a set of floppies, and running diagnostics means swapping floppies a lot.
Also, the 86x0 have a Qbus, with a RLV12 controller in there. :-) And this disk is also not normally available from VMS, unless you connect it with SYSGEN.
I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS?
I don't think it was. Neither was the RK06/RK07, but I believe it shipped with a driver for those.
Johnny
Hans
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Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:27
Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC.
Absolutely, on the 11/03 CFE. And any of the UNIBUS VAXen (730, 750, 780,
etc) would directly support an RX01/02 on an RX211 interface. Such
combinations were not unusual and were supported by VMS. I've got a 11/730
with an RX02 drive in the garage. Likewise any of the BI bus VAXen with a
UBA could at least in theory do the same, though by that time 8" floppies
were uncommon.
Bob
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On 2011-08-23 19:16, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC.
Hmm. I thought it was an RX01. Capacity, however, is 128K for RX01 and 256K for RX02.
Johnny
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Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:11
Hm... didn't the 780 use an 8 inch floppy for console boot device?
paul
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But there's no magic "set EFI boot flags" to this command from VMS?
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From: Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com>
Date: 23 August 2011 20:35:31 GMT+01:00
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Sampsa,
I'm not sitting in front of a machine, but I think you may set boot options from:
SYS$UPDATE:BOOT_OPTIONS.COM
Forgive me if this is incorrect... I think you may set flags there as well... but its been a while...
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Is there any way to do this from VMS?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 20:15, Joe Ferraro wrote:
I've just used the following for [no]min boot IA64...
$! CONVERSATIONAL BOOT
$! IA64
EFI> set vms_flags 0,1 $! non-volatile
EFI> exit
$! boot the server
SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 $! don't boot min every-time
SYSBOOT> USE DEFAULT
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" $! use "" to revert to default
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Sampsa,
I believe you can
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 ""
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
to clear the flags...
Joe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
How do I do this on an Itanium?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote:
> Sampsa,
>
> Clear the boot flags.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
> Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 14:50
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
>
> I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT>
> prompt every damn time.
>
> How do I turn this off?
>
> Sampsa
>
>
On 2011-08-23 19:11, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote:
Hm... didn't the 780 use an 8 inch floppy for console boot device?
Yes it does.
Johnny
paul
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On 2011-08-23 19:08, Sampsa Laine wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-IBM-6360-8-Disk-Drive-Displaywriter-/1107…
Not sure what you ask for. Hooking up an 8" floppy drive is not a problem at all, if you have an RX01 or RX02. Hooking something up with a totally different interface depends on you finding a controller for it.
Magica have 8" floppies already, btw...
Johnny
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Setting the boot flags in EFI to 0,1 gets you into sysBOOT.
The boot flags are controlled by the console, srm on alpha amd efi on ia64.
Setting STARTUP_P1 to "MIN" results in a minimal noot, so what STARTUP.COM does is affected. Or control at VMS level and happens in sysGEN
So sysBOOT is not sysGEN, though both allow control over VMS parameters. But sysBOOT runs at a time when VMS is not yet running.
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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:39:33 -0400
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
Steve,
I would agree - I don't think I was successful in simply setting EFI to 'vms_flags 0,0'. I think I was required to null STARTUP_P1 (as shown in my earlier "script" that was negated within this thread).
Take care,
Joe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
No.
It is a property of the hardware bootstrap.
BTW - for the "default" boot within VMS, STARTUP_P1 should be set to the NULL string.
-Steve
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 15:29
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
Is there any way to do this from VMS?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 20:15, Joe Ferraro wrote:
I've just used the following for [no]min boot IA64...
$! CONVERSATIONAL BOOT
$! IA64
EFI> set vms_flags 0,1 $! non-volatile
EFI> exit
$! boot the server
SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 $! don't boot min every-time
SYSBOOT> USE DEFAULT
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" $! use "" to revert to default
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Sampsa,
I believe you can
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 ""
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
to clear the flags...
Joe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
How do I do this on an Itanium?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote:
> Sampsa,
>
> Clear the boot flags.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
> Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 14:50
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
>
> I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT>
> prompt every damn time.
>
> How do I turn this off?
>
> Sampsa
>
>
Steve,
I would agree - I don't think I was successful in simply setting EFI to 'vms_flags 0,0'. I think I was required to null STARTUP_P1 (as shown in my earlier "script" that was negated within this thread).
Take care,
Joe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
No.
It is a property of the hardware bootstrap.
BTW - for the "default" boot within VMS, STARTUP_P1 should be set to the NULL string.
-Steve
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 15:29
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
Is there any way to do this from VMS?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 20:15, Joe Ferraro wrote:
I've just used the following for [no]min boot IA64...
$! CONVERSATIONAL BOOT
$! IA64
EFI> set vms_flags 0,1 $! non-volatile
EFI> exit
$! boot the server
SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 $! don't boot min every-time
SYSBOOT> USE DEFAULT
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" $! use "" to revert to default
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Sampsa,
I believe you can
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 ""
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
to clear the flags...
Joe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
How do I do this on an Itanium?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote:
> Sampsa,
>
> Clear the boot flags.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
> Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 14:50
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
>
> I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT>
> prompt every damn time.
>
> How do I turn this off?
>
> Sampsa
>
>
No.
It is a property of the hardware bootstrap.
BTW - for the "default" boot within VMS, STARTUP_P1 should be set to the NULL string.
-Steve
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 15:29
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
Is there any way to do this from VMS?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 20:15, Joe Ferraro wrote:
I've just used the following for [no]min boot IA64...
$! CONVERSATIONAL BOOT
$! IA64
EFI> set vms_flags 0,1 $! non-volatile
EFI> exit
$! boot the server
SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 $! don't boot min every-time
SYSBOOT> USE DEFAULT
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN" $! use "" to revert to default
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Sampsa,
I believe you can
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 ""
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
to clear the flags...
Joe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
How do I do this on an Itanium?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote:
> Sampsa,
>
> Clear the boot flags.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
> Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 14:50
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
>
> I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT>
> prompt every damn time.
>
> How do I turn this off?
>
> Sampsa
>
>
