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Changing console from serial to graphics on AS800 from VMS?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Is it possible to change the OPA0: (on reboot, so it sticks) from serial to graphics on an AS800 through VMS? Sampsa

12 years, 8 months

DECnet performance problems (on TOPS-10)

by ahling＠eadc.se

Sorry for not being "expertly experienced on tops-10" (I know others who are... ;-) On PDP:s (RSX11-Mplus) and VAX/VMS, C-TERM (eg. SET HOST) is usually sort of "sluggy". LAT (eg SET TERM/LAT) is a protocol developed to cope with terminals character by character communication at first hand! I don't know if LAT is available to your 10-system, though, but if it is, use that for terminal traffic as far as possible. Besides, what version of VMS, on what hardware? I've heard birds singing of problems combining modern VMS-DECnet with older implementations in other machines... All best, G ran On 2011-08-31 02:20, gerry77 at mail.com wrote: Dear All, I'm in need of some suggestions to improve DECnet performance of a TOPS-10 monitor running on KLH10. I'd like a lot to hear from you even if you do not know or run that specific system or configuration. When used locally at the CTY (Console terminal), the system response is very fast and smooth, so I'd tend to exclude emulator problems and such. Instead, when used from a remotely connected terminal (e.g. from VMS via SET HOST), it appears very sluggish: single character echo is very poor and output from the system fits and starts all the time. Output from programs is very fast for some hundreds lines, then stops briefly, then again appears almost instantly, and so on, like in bursts. Anyway, while the overall bulk data performance can be considered absolutely acceptable, the char-by-char responsiveness, e.g. typing interactive commands at the monitor prompt, is horrible: I type "D", "I", "R", and nothing happens, then I type "E" and "DIRE" suddenly appears... The TOPS-10 system has plenty of free core (both virtual and physical), free disk space, and free CPU, so it shouldn't be an OS issue in itself. Probably the most likely cause of this problem lies in some DECnet parameter that needs some tweaking, but I do not know which one... Have you ever had any experience with some ancient Digital OS having poor DECnet performance as described? And how did you solve that, or at least improve it? Here are some (maybe) interesting bits: Request # 1; Show Executor Node Characteristics Completed Executor Node = 1.1010 (DIECI) Identification = DECnet-10 Version 4.0 Management Version = 4.0.0 Loop Count = 1 Loop Length = 127 Loop With = Mixed Incoming Timer = 30 Outgoing Timer = 60 NSP Version = 4.0.0 Maximum Links = 65535 Delay Factor = 48 Delay Weight = 10 Inactivity Timer = 120 Retransmit Factor = 10 Routing Version = 2.0.0 Type = Nonrouting IV Routing Timer = 600 Broadcast Routing Timer = 40 Maximum Address = 1023 Maximum Circuits = 20 Maximum Cost = 100 Maximum Hops = 16 Maximum Visits = 20 Maximum Broadcast Nonrouters = 64 Maximum Broadcast Routers = 32 Maximum Buffers = 80 Buffer Size = 576 Segment Buffer Size = 576 Request # 5; Show Line Characteristics Completed Line = ETH-0 Receive Buffers = 6 Controller = Normal Protocol = Ethernet Hardware Address = AA 00 04 00 F2 07 Receive buffer size = 576 Request # 7; Show Circuit Characteristics Completed Circuit = ETH-0 Cost = 1 Maximum Routers = 16 Router Priority = 5 Hello Timer = 90 Type = Ethernet I'll be grateful for any suggestion! :) G.

12 years, 8 months

Anyone with a spare MMJ cable + RS232 adapter?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Those would be very welcome as well, esp the ones that are wired to a DB9-F on the other end. Sampsa On 31 Aug 2011, at 09:31, Chrissie Caulfield wrote: On 30/08/11 18:39, Sampsa Laine wrote: Or other sane mechanism for getting a graphical console up on an AS800? I want to add some controllers and drives to CHIMPY? I might have some home-made (ie very dodgy) ones lying around a cupboard -- Chrissie

12 years, 8 months

Anyone with a spare MMJ cable + RS232 adapter?

by christine.caulfield＠googlemail.com

On 30/08/11 18:39, Sampsa Laine wrote: Or other sane mechanism for getting a graphical console up on an AS800? I want to add some controllers and drives to CHIMPY? I might have some home-made (ie very dodgy) ones lying around a cupboard -- Chrissie

12 years, 8 months

DECnet performance problems (on TOPS-10)

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

The paramters you posted are aal defaults except for the node name aand address, right? Two suggestions: - have a look at the exec, line and circuit counters - examine the host IP characteristics and (if present) those of the winpcap package installed on the host Hans Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel -----Original Message----- From: gerry77 at mail.com Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 02:20:37 To: HECnet<hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: [HECnet] DECnet performance problems (on TOPS-10) Dear All, I'm in need of some suggestions to improve DECnet performance of a TOPS-10 monitor running on KLH10. I'd like a lot to hear from you even if you do not know or run that specific system or configuration. When used locally at the CTY (Console terminal), the system response is very fast and smooth, so I'd tend to exclude emulator problems and such. Instead, when used from a remotely connected terminal (e.g. from VMS via SET HOST), it appears very sluggish: single character echo is very poor and output from the system fits and starts all the time. Output from programs is very fast for some hundreds lines, then stops briefly, then again appears almost instantly, and so on, like in bursts. Anyway, while the overall bulk data performance can be considered absolutely acceptable, the char-by-char responsiveness, e.g. typing interactive commands at the monitor prompt, is horrible: I type "D", "I", "R", and nothing happens, then I type "E" and "DIRE" suddenly appears... The TOPS-10 system has plenty of free core (both virtual and physical), free disk space, and free CPU, so it shouldn't be an OS issue in itself. Probably the most likely cause of this problem lies in some DECnet parameter that needs some tweaking, but I do not know which one... Have you ever had any experience with some ancient Digital OS having poor DECnet performance as described? And how did you solve that, or at least improve it? Here are some (maybe) interesting bits: Request # 1; Show Executor Node Characteristics Completed Executor Node = 1.1010 (DIECI) Identification = DECnet-10 Version 4.0 Management Version = 4.0.0 Loop Count = 1 Loop Length = 127 Loop With = Mixed Incoming Timer = 30 Outgoing Timer = 60 NSP Version = 4.0.0 Maximum Links = 65535 Delay Factor = 48 Delay Weight = 10 Inactivity Timer = 120 Retransmit Factor = 10 Routing Version = 2.0.0 Type = Nonrouting IV Routing Timer = 600 Broadcast Routing Timer = 40 Maximum Address = 1023 Maximum Circuits = 20 Maximum Cost = 100 Maximum Hops = 16 Maximum Visits = 20 Maximum Broadcast Nonrouters = 64 Maximum Broadcast Routers = 32 Maximum Buffers = 80 Buffer Size = 576 Segment Buffer Size = 576 Request # 5; Show Line Characteristics Completed Line = ETH-0 Receive Buffers = 6 Controller = Normal Protocol = Ethernet Hardware Address = AA 00 04 00 F2 07 Receive buffer size = 576 Request # 7; Show Circuit Characteristics Completed Circuit = ETH-0 Cost = 1 Maximum Routers = 16 Router Priority = 5 Hello Timer = 90 Type = Ethernet I'll be grateful for any suggestion! :) G.

12 years, 8 months

Anyone with a spare MMJ cable + RS232 adapter?

by schwa.phil＠gmail.com

On 11-08-30 05:25 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: More than perfect. I'll paypal you next tiime my contract employee decide to :) Can't get to it until tomorrow evening - the cable's elsewhere, but I'll retrieve it tomorrow. Phil

12 years, 8 months

DECnet performance problems (on TOPS-10)

by gerry77＠mail.com

Dear All, I'm in need of some suggestions to improve DECnet performance of a TOPS-10 monitor running on KLH10. I'd like a lot to hear from you even if you do not know or run that specific system or configuration. When used locally at the CTY (Console terminal), the system response is very fast and smooth, so I'd tend to exclude emulator problems and such. Instead, when used from a remotely connected terminal (e.g. from VMS via SET HOST), it appears very sluggish: single character echo is very poor and output from the system fits and starts all the time. Output from programs is very fast for some hundreds lines, then stops briefly, then again appears almost instantly, and so on, like in bursts. Anyway, while the overall bulk data performance can be considered absolutely acceptable, the char-by-char responsiveness, e.g. typing interactive commands at the monitor prompt, is horrible: I type "D", "I", "R", and nothing happens, then I type "E" and "DIRE" suddenly appears... The TOPS-10 system has plenty of free core (both virtual and physical), free disk space, and free CPU, so it shouldn't be an OS issue in itself. Probably the most likely cause of this problem lies in some DECnet parameter that needs some tweaking, but I do not know which one... Have you ever had any experience with some ancient Digital OS having poor DECnet performance as described? And how did you solve that, or at least improve it? Here are some (maybe) interesting bits: Request # 1; Show Executor Node Characteristics Completed Executor Node = 1.1010 (DIECI) Identification = DECnet-10 Version 4.0 Management Version = 4.0.0 Loop Count = 1 Loop Length = 127 Loop With = Mixed Incoming Timer = 30 Outgoing Timer = 60 NSP Version = 4.0.0 Maximum Links = 65535 Delay Factor = 48 Delay Weight = 10 Inactivity Timer = 120 Retransmit Factor = 10 Routing Version = 2.0.0 Type = Nonrouting IV Routing Timer = 600 Broadcast Routing Timer = 40 Maximum Address = 1023 Maximum Circuits = 20 Maximum Cost = 100 Maximum Hops = 16 Maximum Visits = 20 Maximum Broadcast Nonrouters = 64 Maximum Broadcast Routers = 32 Maximum Buffers = 80 Buffer Size = 576 Segment Buffer Size = 576 Request # 5; Show Line Characteristics Completed Line = ETH-0 Receive Buffers = 6 Controller = Normal Protocol = Ethernet Hardware Address = AA 00 04 00 F2 07 Receive buffer size = 576 Request # 7; Show Circuit Characteristics Completed Circuit = ETH-0 Cost = 1 Maximum Routers = 16 Router Priority = 5 Hello Timer = 90 Type = Ethernet I'll be grateful for any suggestion! :) G.

12 years, 8 months

Anyone with a spare MMJ cable + RS232 adapter?

by schwa.phil＠gmail.com

On 11-08-30 03:20 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: If you were to say crimp me a few a (3-4) of them, I would of course compensate by a Paypal payment to be used only for bottles of win of say over 30 euros? Are 3 wire sufficient? Most of the ones I make, I only end up doing RX, TX, and GND, but I can do the handshaking lines if you want. The cable I have most of is 6 wire, but it's solid conductor, like telephone wire. Works well enough for these speeds/installations, though. To be clear, let's agree on the cable specs: MMJ - MMJ RX, TX, GND 6' (2m) long enough? Qty 4 As for $$, I find your suggestion ambiguous. (If you sent me 5Eu and told me to spend it on a 30Eu bottle of wine, it would fit.) So how about $25 Canadian + postage? Before we get too excited, I'd better locate the connectors. Will confirm. Cheers, Phil

12 years, 8 months

Anyone with a spare MMJ cable + RS232 adapter?

by schwa.phil＠gmail.com

On 11-08-30 12:39 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Or other sane mechanism for getting a graphical console up on an AS800? I want to add some controllers and drives to CHIMPY? My server is not apparently getting along with the HECnet list. I have a couple of dozen MMJ connectors in the shop, I believe. I could send you some, or we can talk about making up a cable. (I'd rather not be without my MMJ crimping tool.) Best, Phil

12 years, 8 months

Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 29/08/11 22:10, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: You mean $ set time/cluster or $ mc sysgen Set env/cluster Do set time=new time ? Yes, There is a script given: $ SYNCH_CLOCKS: $ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:SYSMAN $ SET ENVIRONMENT/CLUSTER $ CONFIGURATION SET TIME $ EXIT $ WAIT 6:00:00 $ GOTO SYNCH_CLOCKS Seems like a sensible thing to do in a clustered environment. Regards, Mark.

12 years, 8 months

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