My annual power bill runs from December until November. So last year is just closed and billed. In 2010 I kept system powered off when not in use but plugged into the mains. That year we used 7200 kWhr. In 2011 unused systems were also unplugged. We used 5100 kWhr. At .25 cents per kWhr that's a huge difference.
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Van: Peter Coghlan
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Verzonden: 21 december 2011 21:44
Well my machines populate area 44. The price per kWhr however is such that I can't run any of them 24 x 7.
That said, if we decide to have all areas up and running until New Year I'll fire up my lowest cost area router (NIKKEL, a VAXstation 4000-40)
Well, electricity is expensive in area 54 too. (We are increasing the price to
stimulate competition in the market says the regulator - great we can all be
happy that there is lots of competition. Who needs low prices?)
However:
a) My machines contributes to the heating
and
b) They don't pick up any viruses or otherwise cause me worry
So BTP and CEIRE at least will remain up over the holidays, with others joining
them as I need them.
Happy holidays.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
BTP::PETER
Steve and Peter: you've convinced me me and I'll boot area 44 into existence for the next couple of days!
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:43:11
To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Hans,
I think that would be great, even if only for a short time. We are
working on bringing up one more area that hopefully will be up shortly.
I may even bring up all three clusters plus my PDP-11's to celebrate.
Now if I only had a replacement SCSI board for my VAXstation 3100 Model
10 I could bring up ULTRIX on DECVAX:: just like DEC! Hey I don't call
this declab.net for nothing :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:30 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Well my machines populate area 44. The price per kWhr however is such
that I can't run any of them 24 x 7.
That said, if we decide to have all areas up and running until New Year
I'll fire up my lowest cost area router (NIKKEL, a VAXstation 4000-40)
Hans -----Original Message-----
From: "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:29:29
To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links
defined
At the moment 13 areas are up and running - this list only show 10.
Hopefully sometime today we will be at 14. We're working on it! :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:44 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
On 2011-12-20 22:34, Steve Davidson wrote:
I have defined (or redefined) tunnels for areas 3 and 6 for both
GORVAX:: and SG1::. These are effective immediately. Enjoy!
Cool. Area 3 is up according to MIM. Pretty...
...ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 20-DEC-11 23:42:41
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Most of my larger Vaxen live in the garage, so they only run during the winter - mostly when I need the garage warm enough to work on projects at my workbench. It's the same cost as running an electric heater in there, but much more practical.
Ian
On 2011-12-21, at 12:44 PM, Peter Coghlan wrote:
Well my machines populate area 44. The price per kWhr however is such that I can't run any of them 24 x 7.
That said, if we decide to have all areas up and running until New Year I'll fire up my lowest cost area router (NIKKEL, a VAXstation 4000-40)
Well, electricity is expensive in area 54 too. (We are increasing the price to
stimulate competition in the market says the regulator - great we can all be
happy that there is lots of competition. Who needs low prices?)
However:
a) My machines contributes to the heating
and
b) They don't pick up any viruses or otherwise cause me worry
So BTP and CEIRE at least will remain up over the holidays, with others joining
them as I need them.
Happy holidays.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
BTP::PETER
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Well my machines populate area 44. The price per kWhr however is such that I can't run any of them 24 x 7.
That said, if we decide to have all areas up and running until New Year I'll fire up my lowest cost area router (NIKKEL, a VAXstation 4000-40)
Well, electricity is expensive in area 54 too. (We are increasing the price to
stimulate competition in the market says the regulator - great we can all be
happy that there is lots of competition. Who needs low prices?)
However:
a) My machines contributes to the heating
and
b) They don't pick up any viruses or otherwise cause me worry
So BTP and CEIRE at least will remain up over the holidays, with others joining
them as I need them.
Happy holidays.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
BTP::PETER
Hans,
I think that would be great, even if only for a short time. We are
working on bringing up one more area that hopefully will be up shortly.
I may even bring up all three clusters plus my PDP-11's to celebrate.
Now if I only had a replacement SCSI board for my VAXstation 3100 Model
10 I could bring up ULTRIX on DECVAX:: just like DEC! Hey I don't call
this declab.net for nothing :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:30 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Well my machines populate area 44. The price per kWhr however is such
that I can't run any of them 24 x 7.
That said, if we decide to have all areas up and running until New Year
I'll fire up my lowest cost area router (NIKKEL, a VAXstation 4000-40)
Hans -----Original Message-----
From: "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:29:29
To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links
defined
At the moment 13 areas are up and running - this list only show 10.
Hopefully sometime today we will be at 14. We're working on it! :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:44 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
On 2011-12-20 22:34, Steve Davidson wrote:
I have defined (or redefined) tunnels for areas 3 and 6 for both
GORVAX:: and SG1::. These are effective immediately. Enjoy!
Cool. Area 3 is up according to MIM. Pretty...
..ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 20-DEC-11 23:42:41
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
..
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Well my machines populate area 44. The price per kWhr however is such that I can't run any of them 24 x 7.
That said, if we decide to have all areas up and running until New Year I'll fire up my lowest cost area router (NIKKEL, a VAXstation 4000-40)
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:29:29
To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
At the moment 13 areas are up and running - this list only show 10.
Hopefully sometime today we will be at 14. We're working on it! :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:44 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
On 2011-12-20 22:34, Steve Davidson wrote:
I have defined (or redefined) tunnels for areas 3 and 6 for both
GORVAX:: and SG1::. These are effective immediately. Enjoy!
Cool. Area 3 is up according to MIM. Pretty...
..ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 20-DEC-11 23:42:41
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
..
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Sampsa,
I'm connected to MIM:: via SET HOST and it appears to work fine for me.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:05 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
BTW, bounced the router and bridge remotely (which I REALLY dislike
doing) but no use.
Is Johnny's side of the bridge running ok?
Sampsa
On 21 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Steve Davidson wrote:
Peter,
Add an additional connection to Multinet for SG1. Use 69.21.253.230.
I would set your costs (because you are an "end node") as follows:
GORVAX = 3 Shortest distance and high speed
SG1 = 5 Medium distance and medium speed
LEGATO > 5 Longest distance and slower speed
According to Sampsa, his bridge link is having issues (I have no
access to that), and he is out of country, so connecting to SG1 is
probably a great idea for now and won't hurt anything. SG1 like
LEGATO is a dedicated Multinet router. All it does is that one
function.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Peter Lothberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:08 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
What is your IP address? I can add links to GORVAX and SG1 at any
time. If your IP address is dynamic, then SG1 will deal with that
automatically whereas GORVAX is a manual change.
192.108.200.211
It;s static.
-Peter
BTW, bounced the router and bridge remotely (which I REALLY dislike doing) but no use.
Is Johnny's side of the bridge running ok?
Sampsa
On 21 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Steve Davidson wrote:
Peter,
Add an additional connection to Multinet for SG1. Use 69.21.253.230. I
would set your costs (because you are an "end node") as follows:
GORVAX = 3 Shortest distance and high speed
SG1 = 5 Medium distance and medium speed
LEGATO > 5 Longest distance and slower speed
According to Sampsa, his bridge link is having issues (I have no access
to that), and he is out of country, so connecting to SG1 is probably a
great idea for now and won't hurt anything. SG1 like LEGATO is a
dedicated Multinet router. All it does is that one function.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Peter Lothberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:08 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
What is your IP address? I can add links to GORVAX and SG1 at any
time. If your IP address is dynamic, then SG1 will deal with that
automatically whereas GORVAX is a manual change.
192.108.200.211
It;s static.
-Peter
Peter,
Add an additional connection to Multinet for SG1. Use 69.21.253.230. I
would set your costs (because you are an "end node") as follows:
GORVAX = 3 Shortest distance and high speed
SG1 = 5 Medium distance and medium speed
LEGATO > 5 Longest distance and slower speed
According to Sampsa, his bridge link is having issues (I have no access
to that), and he is out of country, so connecting to SG1 is probably a
great idea for now and won't hurt anything. SG1 like LEGATO is a
dedicated Multinet router. All it does is that one function.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Peter Lothberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:08 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
What is your IP address? I can add links to GORVAX and SG1 at any
time. If your IP address is dynamic, then SG1 will deal with that
automatically whereas GORVAX is a manual change.
192.108.200.211
It;s static.
-Peter
