Fred, DEC tends over-engineer things so possibly one fan may work provided the box is not loaded with disks. The VS4k series were designed for 5400 rpm disks and not for 7200 rpm or faster running disks. My solution would be to put storage in an external cabinet.
You could try and apply e little graphite powder in the noisy fan bearing, better yet use a molybdenium based lubricant: these do not conduct electricity.
I haven't opened my VS4000-x0's for year and cannot recall what the powersupplies look like, sorry.
Hans
------Origineel bericht------
Van: Fred
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: [HECnet] VAXStation 4000/90A power supply fan
Verzonden: 18 november 2011 14:13
Good morning ...
Subject mostly says it all. One of the fans in my VS4K 90A is noisy. I'd
like to replace it. (actually both) Two questions arise:
How the **** do I get the fans out of the power supply? I've got the
power supply out (that's easy), mostly apart (that's not so easy) but do
not seem to see any screws on the fans.
Would it be safe to run it with just one (quiet) fan?
Any pointers or links would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
Good morning ...
Subject mostly says it all. One of the fans in my VS4K 90A is noisy. I'd like to replace it. (actually both) Two questions arise:
How the **** do I get the fans out of the power supply? I've got the power supply out (that's easy), mostly apart (that's not so easy) but do not seem to see any screws on the fans.
Would it be safe to run it with just one (quiet) fan?
Any pointers or links would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
Hmm. Area 44 don't seem to be online...
Anyway, I just tried setting host from one RSX system to another, and running phone on the remote system, and it works fine.
Not sure exactly what you saw, however one point to make is that unless you are in a conversation, you are already at the % prompt, and typing % will do nothing.
Also, ^Z should get you out of phone on RSX anyway.
Johnny
On 2011-11-15 23:30, H Vlems wrote:
Ah, thank you so much.
I've read problems with SET HOST towards MIM in this thread which I didn't
notice.
What did not work was PHONE though. What I typed in on a local ALpha did
show up on MIM but I couldn't type into MIM's PHONE panel.
Hitting % didn't get me to the % prompt to exit PHONE on MIM.
The only way to log off was to disconnect by hitting ^Y twice at this end...
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Johnny Billquist
Verzonden: dinsdag, november 2011 23:24
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
.ncp sho area 11
Area summary as of 15-NOV-11 23:22:34
Next
Area State Circuit Node
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
Johnny
On 2011-11-15 23:03, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
No I meant what produced this:
Area State Circuit Next node to area
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)
Hans
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: * Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
*Sender: * owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Date: *Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:55:03 +0200
*To: *<hecnet at update.uu.se>
*ReplyTo: * hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Subject: *Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
Hi,
COPY command. Any file larger than 2 blocks. Tried from DS20::
(Alpha/8.3) and MAISA:: (VAX/7.2) and A11RTR:: (VAX/7.2)
--Saku'
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 15:59, H Vlems<hvlems at zonnet.nl
<mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl>> wrote:
__
Saku,____
what command and on which node produced the output below?____
Hans____
__ __
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Van:*owner-__hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>__
[mailto:owner-<mailto:owner->__hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>__] *Namens *Saku Set l
*Verzonden:* donderdag, november 2011 5:25
*Aan:* hecnet at update.uu.se<mailto:hecnet at update.uu.se>
*Onderwerp:* Re: [HECnet] RHESUS____
__ __
I have succesfully copied VAX patches from SLAVE.____
__ __
Now I wonder if this has something to do with the RHESUS problem:____
__ __
Area State Circuit Next node to area____
____
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)____
__ __
Should it be so?____
__ __
Regards,____
__ __
--Saku____
__ __
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Ah, thank you so much.
I've read problems with SET HOST towards MIM in this thread which I didn't
notice.
What did not work was PHONE though. What I typed in on a local ALpha did
show up on MIM but I couldn't type into MIM's PHONE panel.
Hitting % didn't get me to the % prompt to exit PHONE on MIM.
The only way to log off was to disconnect by hitting ^Y twice at this end...
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Johnny Billquist
Verzonden: dinsdag, november 2011 23:24
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
.ncp sho area 11
Area summary as of 15-NOV-11 23:22:34
Next
Area State Circuit Node
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
Johnny
On 2011-11-15 23:03, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
No I meant what produced this:
Area State Circuit Next node to area
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)
Hans
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: * Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
*Sender: * owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Date: *Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:55:03 +0200
*To: *<hecnet at update.uu.se>
*ReplyTo: * hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Subject: *Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
Hi,
COPY command. Any file larger than 2 blocks. Tried from DS20::
(Alpha/8.3) and MAISA:: (VAX/7.2) and A11RTR:: (VAX/7.2)
--Saku'
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 15:59, H Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl
<mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl>> wrote:
__
Saku,____
what command and on which node produced the output below?____
Hans____
__ __
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Van:*owner-__hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>__
[mailto:owner- <mailto:owner->__hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>__] *Namens *Saku Set l
*Verzonden:* donderdag, november 2011 5:25
*Aan:* hecnet at update.uu.se <mailto:hecnet at update.uu.se>
*Onderwerp:* Re: [HECnet] RHESUS____
__ __
I have succesfully copied VAX patches from SLAVE.____
__ __
Now I wonder if this has something to do with the RHESUS problem:____
__ __
Area State Circuit Next node to area____
____
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)____
__ __
Should it be so?____
__ __
Regards,____
__ __
--Saku____
__ __
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
.ncp sho area 11
Area summary as of 15-NOV-11 23:22:34
Next
Area State Circuit Node
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
Johnny
On 2011-11-15 23:03, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
No I meant what produced this:
Area State Circuit Next node to area
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)
Hans
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: * Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
*Sender: * owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Date: *Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:55:03 +0200
*To: *<hecnet at update.uu.se>
*ReplyTo: * hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Subject: *Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
Hi,
COPY command. Any file larger than 2 blocks. Tried from DS20::
(Alpha/8.3) and MAISA:: (VAX/7.2) and A11RTR:: (VAX/7.2)
--Saku'
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 15:59, H Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl
<mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl>> wrote:
__
Saku,____
what command and on which node produced the output below?____
Hans____
__ __
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Van:*owner-__hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>__
[mailto:owner- <mailto:owner->__hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>__] *Namens *Saku Set l
*Verzonden:* donderdag, november 2011 5:25
*Aan:* hecnet at update.uu.se <mailto:hecnet at update.uu.se>
*Onderwerp:* Re: [HECnet] RHESUS____
__ __
I have succesfully copied VAX patches from SLAVE.____
__ __
Now I wonder if this has something to do with the RHESUS problem:____
__ __
Area State Circuit Next node to area____
____
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)____
__ __
Should it be so?____
__ __
Regards,____
__ __
--Saku____
__ __
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
No I meant what produced this:
Area State Circuit Next node to area
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)
Hans
From: Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:55:03 +0200
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
Hi,
COPY command. Any file larger than 2 blocks. Tried from DS20:: (Alpha/8.3) and MAISA:: (VAX/7.2) and A11RTR:: (VAX/7.2)
--Saku'
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 15:59, H Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Saku,
what command and on which node produced the output below?
Hans
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Saku Set l Verzonden: donderdag, november 2011 5:25 Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
I have succesfully copied VAX patches from SLAVE.
Now I wonder if this has something to do with the RHESUS problem:
Area State Circuit Next node to area
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)
Should it be so?
Regards,
--Saku
Hi,
COPY command. Any file larger than 2 blocks. Tried from DS20:: (Alpha/8.3) and MAISA:: (VAX/7.2) and A11RTR:: (VAX/7.2)
--Saku'
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 15:59, H Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Saku,
what command and on which node produced the output below?
Hans
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Saku Set l Verzonden: donderdag, november 2011 5:25 Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
I have succesfully copied VAX patches from SLAVE.
Now I wonder if this has something to do with the RHESUS problem:
Area State Circuit Next node to area
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)
Should it be so?
Regards,
--Saku
Saku,
what command and on which node produced the output below?
Hans
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Saku Set l Verzonden: donderdag, november 2011 5:25 Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RHESUS
I have succesfully copied VAX patches from SLAVE.
Now I wonder if this has something to do with the RHESUS problem:
Area State Circuit Next node to area
1 reachable ISA-0 1.300 (CTAKAH)
Should it be so?
Regards,
--Saku
The bridge was stopped and started several times. My outside IP address is:
87.209.50.192
It worked flawlessly and neither the bridge nor its host have been changed or modified. -s usr1 just shows local mac and decnet addresses.
It points to psilo.update.uu.se:4711
Hans
------Origineel bericht------
Van: Johnny Billquist
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] No Hecnet access for area 44
Verzonden: 13 november 2011 02:32
On 2011-11-12 19.54, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Johnny, the bridge program runs but the link doesn't seem to work.
Any ideas why?
Hans
Nope. Could you try kicking your bridge? Also, what address do you have?
Johnny
On 2011-11-13 02.33, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2011-11-12 21.49, Rob Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Oleg Safiullin
Sent: 12 November 2011 18:32
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Nodename database
What is the IP address of MIM? Is there a list of IP addresses of
HECnet nodes somewhere?
Regards
Rob
I know the following addresses:
MIM mim.update.uu.se
CTAKAH rsx.pdp-11.nsk.ru
CTEPBA rsx.pdp-11.nsk.ru:2023 (currently down)
Thanks. Telnet is indeed much better. But it is a little ironic that
it is
better to use Telnet than DECnet to access a node on HECnet. :-)
Part of the reason is that when you use telnet, you are actully going
through E11, which simulates a normal DH11 serial port towards the
PDP-11. So you seem (to the PDP-11) to be sitting on a proper serial port.
Btw. Worth pointing out: the ber-cool command line editor ACD in RSX can only be used with the normal terminal driver. So - not usable through DECnet.
It is a piece of software I really should encourage all RSX-11M-PLUS users to check out...
(Although my list of stuff to spread to other RSX users are growing pretty long...)
Johnny
