I don't own a -90 so can't confirm that.
From: Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:11:48 +0200
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] VAXStation 4000/90A power supply fan
Do the 90 and 90A have same PSU?
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 21:19, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
No choice but to drill it out. Unless you'd rather buy another p/s.
Hans
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> On 18/11/11 13:29, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
>> You could try and apply e little graphite powder in the noisy fan bearing,
>> better yet use a molybdenium based lubricant: these do not conduct
>> electricity.
I tried some good old moly lubricant the guys use at the copier shop where
I work - it made a slight difference but not much. The bearing is
obviously shot. The fan is *riveted* into the power supply. What the
heck?
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Mark Wickens wrote:
> I'd caution against running it with one fan - I think the point of having two
> is in case one fails, and like hard drives it does occasionally happen.
For now, I am running it with one fan, and it being only 60-65F in the
house (and the computer office) the VAX is not running hot. I removed one
of the drives, since I really wasn't doing anything with it. (it was a
pull from a BA356 canister) Looked half-height to me, although I do have
some smaller in size drives that I may swap in.
At some point I'm going to source new fans and then try to pry the old
ones out. Other than that when I had the power supply apart, no domed
caps, everything is quite clean (and even cleaner when I gave it a date
with the shop air compressor).
I have two 90's (not 90A's) in the closet I could press into service but I
really do not want to trash this 90A for just missing one fan.
Thanks for the responses all.
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
Do the 90 and 90A have same PSU?
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 21:19, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
No choice but to drill it out. Unless you'd rather buy another p/s.
Hans
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> On 18/11/11 13:29, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
>> You could try and apply e little graphite powder in the noisy fan bearing,
>> better yet use a molybdenium based lubricant: these do not conduct
>> electricity.
I tried some good old moly lubricant the guys use at the copier shop where
I work - it made a slight difference but not much. The bearing is
obviously shot. The fan is *riveted* into the power supply. What the
heck?
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Mark Wickens wrote:
> I'd caution against running it with one fan - I think the point of having two
> is in case one fails, and like hard drives it does occasionally happen.
For now, I am running it with one fan, and it being only 60-65F in the
house (and the computer office) the VAX is not running hot. I removed one
of the drives, since I really wasn't doing anything with it. (it was a
pull from a BA356 canister) Looked half-height to me, although I do have
some smaller in size drives that I may swap in.
At some point I'm going to source new fans and then try to pry the old
ones out. Other than that when I had the power supply apart, no domed
caps, everything is quite clean (and even cleaner when I gave it a date
with the shop air compressor).
I have two 90's (not 90A's) in the closet I could press into service but I
really do not want to trash this 90A for just missing one fan.
Thanks for the responses all.
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
One more diff: http://pdp-11.nsk.ru/~form/files/bridge/bridge-tap.patch
It contains my previous path for OpenBSD and adds support for OpenBSD/Linux `tun' interface, so you
can use it for SimH:
bridge.conf:
------------
[bridge]
tunnel @tun0
------------
pdp11.ini:
------------
att xq tun0
------------
On 11/22/2011 09:24 AM, Oleg Safiullin wrote:
On 11/22/2011 02:25 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ok. After some whacky hacking to merge what Hans sent me, I've uploaded a new version at http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet
o Update for OpenBSD to avoid loops.
o Drop MAX() definition - it isn't used
--- bridge.c.orig Tue Nov 22 02:17:15 2011
+++ bridge.c Tue Nov 22 09:21:34 2011
@@ -70,8 +70,6 @@
#define ETHERTYPE_MOPRC 0x6002
#define ETHERTYPE_LOOPBACK 0x9000
-#define MAX(a,b) (a>b?a:b)
-
/* This is a very simple and small program for bpf that just
filters out anything by any protocol that we *know* we're
not interested in.
@@ -248,6 +246,13 @@
perror("BIOCSHDRCMPLT");
exit(1);
}
+#ifdef __OpenBSD__
+ i = BPF_DIRECTION_OUT;
+ if (ioctl(bridge[bcnt].fd,BIOCSDIRFILT,&i)) {
+ perror("BIOCSDIRFILT");
+ exit(1);
+ }
+#endif
#endif
found = -1;
On 11/22/2011 02:25 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ok. After some whacky hacking to merge what Hans sent me, I've uploaded a new version at http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet
o Update for OpenBSD to avoid loops.
o Drop MAX() definition - it isn't used
--- bridge.c.orig Tue Nov 22 02:17:15 2011
+++ bridge.c Tue Nov 22 09:21:34 2011
@@ -70,8 +70,6 @@
#define ETHERTYPE_MOPRC 0x6002
#define ETHERTYPE_LOOPBACK 0x9000
-#define MAX(a,b) (a>b?a:b)
-
/* This is a very simple and small program for bpf that just
filters out anything by any protocol that we *know* we're
not interested in.
@@ -248,6 +246,13 @@
perror("BIOCSHDRCMPLT");
exit(1);
}
+#ifdef __OpenBSD__
+ i = BPF_DIRECTION_OUT;
+ if (ioctl(bridge[bcnt].fd,BIOCSDIRFILT,&i)) {
+ perror("BIOCSDIRFILT");
+ exit(1);
+ }
+#endif
#endif
found = -1;
On 2011-11-21 20:54, Mark Benson wrote:
On 21 Nov 2011, at 19:25, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ok. After some whacky hacking to merge what Hans sent me, I've uploaded a new version at http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet
Grab it, compile and test. There are also some improvements and bugfixes there. Not that maybe you had seen them in real life, but never the less...
The file I wget'd is date 2010 and compiled to the exact size of the last version I was using...
http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/bridge.tar
Is that right?
That sounds wrong. I just checked again, and the tar-file is dated today, as is the bridge.c file inside.
And your url is correct.
Check the file size. bridge.c should be 15897 bytes.
Johnny
--
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|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 21 Nov 2011, at 20:07, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
What happens if you run it without a parameter?
It asks for a port number? :)
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Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
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HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
What happens if you run it without a parameter?
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On 21 Nov 2011, at 19:25, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ok. After some whacky hacking to merge what Hans sent me, I've uploaded a new version at http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet
Grab it, compile and test. There are also some improvements and bugfixes there. Not that maybe you had seen them in real life, but never the less...
The file I wget'd is date 2010 and compiled to the exact size of the last version I was using...
http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/bridge.tar
Is that right?
--
Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
On 21 Nov 2011, at 19:25, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ok. After some whacky hacking to merge what Hans sent me, I've uploaded a new version at http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet
Grab it, compile and test. There are also some improvements and bugfixes there. Not that maybe you had seen them in real life, but never the less...
The file I wget'd is date 2010 and compiled to the exact size of the last version I was using...
http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/bridge.tar
Is that right?
--
Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
Ok. After some whacky hacking to merge what Hans sent me, I've uploaded a new version at http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet
Grab it, compile and test. There are also some improvements and bugfixes there. Not that maybe you had seen them in real life, but never the less...
Johnny
On 2011-11-20 20.54, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Hmm. It's the full code. Which version did you make it from? The one on
my site now?
It can be interesting for me to create a diff on it, if I don't know
which version you branched from. Or, if you have the unchanged sources
around somewhere, do a "diff -c <orginial> <your version>", and send me
the result of that instead.
Johnny
On 2011-11-20 20:51, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Cool. I'll grab it from there then.
Johnny
On 2011-11-20 20:48, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
It's on MIM:: in the guest directory as bridge.chv.
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From: Johnny Billquist<bqt at softjar.se>
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:38:03
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Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Windows Version of
Bridge
Send a diff to me instead. I probably have some stuff that I've worked
on in the code which haven't been distributed. And it's also in general
a bad idea to have the code distributed from different places with
different versions.
I'll put a new version up as soon as I've merged stuff, which will
probably be tomorrow, if you can get me the diff today. And after that,
it would be nice to have people test it at their systems.
Johnny
On 2011-11-20 20:32, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
OK, after installing libpcap-develop the program compiled *and*
seems to
work.
I'll add a Hecnet paragraph to my website to make the source available.
That is if Johnny agrees with that of course. It is his program not
mine.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: * "Rob Jarratt"<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
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*Date: *Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:26:54 -0000
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*ReplyTo: * hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Subject: *RE: [HECnet] Windows Version of Bridge
I didn t, but suppose I should. I think that if I tidy up the code,
then
a simple diff will make the changes clear. Most of the work was to get
PCAP and sockets to use the same mechanism to tell the code that there
was some data to be processed.
Regards
Rob
*From:*owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] *On
Behalf Of *hvlems at zonnet.nl
*Sent:* 20 November 2011 11:24
*To:* hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Subject:* Re: [HECnet] Windows Version of Bridge
Did you document the changes? I want to try and port it to VMS.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: *"Rob Jarratt"<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com
<mailto:robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>>
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*Date: *Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:21:09 -0000
*To: *<hecnet at update.uu.se<mailto:hecnet at update.uu.se>>
*ReplyTo: *hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
*Subject: *[HECnet] Windows Version of Bridge
I just wanted to let you know that I have ported the bridge code to
Windows. It seems to work well for me. If anyone is interested in a
copy, let me know.
I think that it needs just a little bit more work to do the following:
1. Tidy up some bits that I almost certainly left behind while
trying to
get it to work.
2. Turn it into a Windows Service so that it starts automatically when
Windows starts.
Another feature which would be nice to add generally is something which
periodically re-resolves the DNS names in the config file to IP
addresses, so that people who use something like DynDNS because they
don t have a fixed IP address, can use it more easily and not fall off
the network for too long when their IP address changes. Presumably
calling the SIGHUP handler (read_conf) every so often would do the
trick.
It would also be nice to make the code a bit more portable so that it
will compile and run on more platforms without modification, a bit like
SIMH.
Regards
Rob
Hmm. It's the full code. Which version did you make it from? The one on my site now?
It can be interesting for me to create a diff on it, if I don't know which version you branched from. Or, if you have the unchanged sources around somewhere, do a "diff -c <orginial> <your version>", and send me the result of that instead.
Johnny
On 2011-11-20 20:51, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Cool. I'll grab it from there then.
Johnny
On 2011-11-20 20:48, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
It's on MIM:: in the guest directory as bridge.chv.
-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Billquist<bqt at softjar.se>
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:38:03
To:<hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Windows Version of
Bridge
Send a diff to me instead. I probably have some stuff that I've worked
on in the code which haven't been distributed. And it's also in general
a bad idea to have the code distributed from different places with
different versions.
I'll put a new version up as soon as I've merged stuff, which will
probably be tomorrow, if you can get me the diff today. And after that,
it would be nice to have people test it at their systems.
Johnny
On 2011-11-20 20:32, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
OK, after installing libpcap-develop the program compiled *and* seems to
work.
I'll add a Hecnet paragraph to my website to make the source available.
That is if Johnny agrees with that of course. It is his program not
mine.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: * "Rob Jarratt"<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
*Sender: * owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Date: *Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:26:54 -0000
*To: *<hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
*ReplyTo: * hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Subject: *RE: [HECnet] Windows Version of Bridge
I didn t, but suppose I should. I think that if I tidy up the code, then
a simple diff will make the changes clear. Most of the work was to get
PCAP and sockets to use the same mechanism to tell the code that there
was some data to be processed.
Regards
Rob
*From:*owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] *On
Behalf Of *hvlems at zonnet.nl
*Sent:* 20 November 2011 11:24
*To:* hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Subject:* Re: [HECnet] Windows Version of Bridge
Did you document the changes? I want to try and port it to VMS.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: *"Rob Jarratt"<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com
<mailto:robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>>
*Sender: *owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
*Date: *Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:21:09 -0000
*To: *<hecnet at update.uu.se<mailto:hecnet at update.uu.se>>
*ReplyTo: *hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
*Subject: *[HECnet] Windows Version of Bridge
I just wanted to let you know that I have ported the bridge code to
Windows. It seems to work well for me. If anyone is interested in a
copy, let me know.
I think that it needs just a little bit more work to do the following:
1. Tidy up some bits that I almost certainly left behind while trying to
get it to work.
2. Turn it into a Windows Service so that it starts automatically when
Windows starts.
Another feature which would be nice to add generally is something which
periodically re-resolves the DNS names in the config file to IP
addresses, so that people who use something like DynDNS because they
don t have a fixed IP address, can use it more easily and not fall off
the network for too long when their IP address changes. Presumably
calling the SIGHUP handler (read_conf) every so often would do the
trick.
It would also be nice to make the code a bit more portable so that it
will compile and run on more platforms without modification, a bit like
SIMH.
Regards
Rob
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
