22 Jan
2024
22 Jan
'24
6:06 p.m.
I found Muddle (MDL) repositories on Github and now learned about VMS version in that
repository but no binaries.
Does anyone have a copy of Muddle 1.03 for VMS? That allows Zork MDL files to run.
Does anyone have a copy of Scribe or alternative software to interpret MSS document files
into printouts?
Thanks,
Tim
22 Jan
22 Jan
6:12 p.m.
I wrote an MDL interpreter based on 103 in Bliss32 and it works quite well though it
won't swallow the Zork source without some major work. I used reference-counted
garbage collection and the internals aren't exactly like those described for the
PDP-10. It also suffers from not being able to save an image of the runtime state which is
how Zork in MDL gets around.
Keith
From: Timothy Stark [mailto:fsword007@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 January 2024 17:06
To: hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se
Subject: [HECnet] Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
I found Muddle (MDL) repositories on Github and now learned about VMS version in that
repository but no binaries.
Does anyone have a copy of Muddle 1.03 for VMS? That allows Zork MDL files to run.
Does anyone have a copy of Scribe or alternative software to interpret MSS document files
into printouts?
Thanks,
Tim
6:15 p.m.
New subject: Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
Did you happen to bump into ITS, Tops-10 or Tops-20 versions of Muddle
in your journeys?
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On 1/22/24 12:06 PM, Timothy Stark wrote:
I found Muddle (MDL) repositories on Github and now learned about VMS
version in that repository but no binaries.
Does anyone have a copy of Muddle 1.03 for VMS? That allows Zork MDL
files to run.
Does anyone have a copy of Scribe or alternative software to interpret
MSS document files into printouts?
Thanks,
Tim
6:19 p.m.
New subject: Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
Yes, I bumped into ITS and TOPS-20 version of Muddle. I had not found TOPS-10 version of
Muddle yet. I need to find TOPS-10 version.
I got docs to learn how to write.
Tim
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From: Thomas DeBellis <tommytimesharing(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:15 PM
To: hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] Re: Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
Did you happen to bump into ITS, Tops-10 or Tops-20 versions of Muddle in your journeys?
________________________________
On 1/22/24 12:06 PM, Timothy Stark wrote:
I found Muddle (MDL) repositories on Github and now learned about VMS version in that
repository but no binaries.
Does anyone have a copy of Muddle 1.03 for VMS? That allows Zork MDL files to run.
Does anyone have a copy of Scribe or alternative software to interpret MSS document files
into printouts?
Thanks,
Tim
23 Jan
23 Jan
3:10 p.m.
New subject: Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
Send me a pointer to the Tops-20 version and Docs, would you?
Thanks!!
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On 1/22/24 12:19 PM, Timothy Stark wrote:
Yes, I bumped into ITS and TOPS-20 version of Muddle. I had not found
TOPS-10 version of Muddle yet. I need to find TOPS-10 version.
I got docs to learn how to write.
Tim
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*From:* Thomas DeBellis <tommytimesharing(a)gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:15 PM
*To:* hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
*Subject:* [HECnet] Re: Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
Did you happen to bump into ITS, Tops-10 or Tops-20 versions of
Muddle in your journeys?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On 1/22/24 12:06 PM, Timothy Stark wrote:
>
>
> I found Muddle (MDL) repositories on Github and now learned about
> VMS version in that repository but no binaries.
>
> Does anyone have a copy of Muddle 1.03 for VMS? That allows Zork MDL
> files to run.
>
> Does anyone have a copy of Scribe or alternative software to
> interpret MSS document files into printouts?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
*
4:14 p.m.
New subject: Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
There are source codes and binaries for Muddle (MDL) system for TOPS-20 system.
https://github.com/PDP-10/muddle.git
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From: Thomas DeBellis <tommytimesharing(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 9:10 AM
To: hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] Re: Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
Send me a pointer to the Tops-20 version and Docs, would you?
Thanks!!
________________________________
On 1/22/24 12:19 PM, Timothy Stark wrote:
Yes, I bumped into ITS and TOPS-20 version of Muddle. I had not found TOPS-10 version of
Muddle yet. I need to find TOPS-10 version.
I got docs to learn how to write.
Tim
________________________________
From: Thomas DeBellis
<tommytimesharing@gmail.com><mailto:tommytimesharing@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:15 PM
To: hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se<mailto:hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se>
<hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se><mailto:hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] Re: Muddle 1.03 for VMS? Scribe (MSS files)?
Did you happen to bump into ITS, Tops-10 or Tops-20 versions of Muddle in your journeys?
________________________________
On 1/22/24 12:06 PM, Timothy Stark wrote:
I found Muddle (MDL) repositories on Github and now learned about VMS version in that
repository but no binaries.
Does anyone have a copy of Muddle 1.03 for VMS? That allows Zork MDL files to run.
Does anyone have a copy of Scribe or alternative software to interpret MSS document files
into printouts?
Thanks,
Tim
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