If such an old version existed, it would give me an excuse to get 'tme' running at least. Also, 1986 would place the software well after Phase IV/IV+ and before Phase V's rollout, so I imagine if it could be located it would be quite interoperable, even if it had to be used on SunOS 3. That seems to be historically more interesting than using SunOS 4. Yes. However, I imagine that software is quite obscure at this point. X11 was released in 1987, and xterm was available with it. While I'm not a Sun history buff, and don't know when Sun switched to X11 from OpenWindows (did they ever use NeWS?), regardless, this seems to indicate that software likely had a very short period of viability and likely wasn't widely distributed. :( -- Jeffrey H. Johnson jhj at trnsz.com https://ban.ai/multics

The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging. I don't recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you like, I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while. -Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:

Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. -Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:

Hello! And so would I. As for getting it work on 64 bit Slackware 14.2 would be interesting. Dave ask me off list for what I did get to work there. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: And this message is not being sponsored by the big cats bowling league.

Thanks, I just made an inquiry to a few people at Oracle - but I don't expect that to go anywhere. I found references to Ki Research supporting a wide range of systems in the 1992 thread at this link: https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/comp.unix.aix/tgMn6Z45Z1A/cDRmtdnOk… I'd be particularly interested in the AOS/VS and Apollo software as well, but they certainly list Sun as supported. They even support OS/2. Seems to be the missing Holy Grail of DECnet software. Perhaps someone might track down "Dan Watts" ... perhaps if the software is no longer sold and has no commercial value he might know who to contact to have it released - or at least to be able to 'preserve' a copy until the appropriate permissions can be obtained. Other names I came up with were "Toni Barckley" and "Dan Smith", mentioned in this Network World article about a change that never came to be... https://ban.ai/~jhj/images/decnet_4_5.png Probably you've done all this research before! For that earlier linked thread, was interesting as well: "Our version of DECnet for Ultrix has many features not found in the Ultrix DECnet available from DEC. One such feature is support for Level 1 and Level 2 routing [last I checked, I don't think DEC/Ultrix does this]. Our command interface is modeled after the VMS commands, which many of our users find easier to use. For users which do however like the DEC/Ultrix interface, we also have that interface as well. There are many other benefits as well." -- Jeffrey H. Johnson jhj at trnsz.com https://ban.ai/multics

Update with some good news. I've been in touch with a chain of people at TSS, who have been quite responsive and very helpful, and have now finally reached the management level, who said they will try to respond back, hopefully before next week. Best case scenario is we might have AIX/SunOS/Solaris/Amiga DECnet soon, worst case is nothing comes of it, or they agree but don't have the software available any longer. I'll wait patiently and see what happens. -- Jeffrey H. Johnson jhj at trnsz.com https://ban.ai/multics

It would be interesting to see if anyone can at least find binaries for the TSS DECnet product, if TSS would be willing to make a hobbyist license available, it would be cool to play with. From a practical standpoint, it has no commercial value at this point, since it?s pre-MacOSX. Oddly enough, I want to say that I bought a license for DAVE from them, for the purpose of accessing a Samba Share on VMS. At least that?s the only reason I can think of, at this point, why I?d have purchased a copy. :-) Zane

Hi All! I have Mac TSSnet 2.4.1 package. I can upload it somewhere if anyone interested in.

I would like a copy of TSSnet 2.4.1 if you don?t mind. Thank you. Supratim

Hi, I am very quiet on this list. One day I'll get some DEC hardware set up and connected. About Apollos. I have a couple in the garage. They have been stored badly in their lifetime and I am in the (very slow) process of putting together some test gear to test the power supplies before powering on the logic. There are a number of issues with the OS which would provide issues in the current environment. The date being one of them. The date is / was counted as a quarter of a second since the first of Jan 1980. The most significant bit ended up being set in November 1997. While the count was unsigned some libraries (Pascal comes to mind) could not handle unsigned integers. As a result the a series of patches came out to cover DomainOS beyond 1997. It seems that HP killed it off. Only a couple of models came out after HP purchased Apollo. It seems most of the programmers went to Microsoft. Today the legacy seems to be in windows with \\nodename\directory and a common network registry. I came across both in DomainOS while MS DOS was still king and NT supported Alpha! Not all functionality made it to windows. I still miss being able to create a process on another node as though it was local. I was only ever a hobbyest with Apollo and Domain OS. It would have been fun to have a cluster of the machines. Simon. On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 10:38, Jeffrey H. Johnson <jhj at trnsz.com> wrote: -- Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh

I believe it was a third-party implementation from Technology Concepts, Sudbury, MA. John.