7 Sep
2022
7 Sep
'22
10:25 p.m.
I can personally attest that portions of the Tops-10 DECnet
implementation are quite robust. I have several hours worth of tests
that I have run against Kermit-10 on VENTI:: (Tops-*10*) from VENTI2::
(Tops-*20*). That cross platform regression testing has enabled me to
find several bugs and I am hopeful of doing something similar against
Ultrix at some point.
Why 'portions'? The reason I started the NRT implementation for Tops-29
Kermit was because the regression tests I was running on Tops-20 DAP
were blowing Tops-10 FAL right out of the water; bad enough that Bob had
to reboot the machine.
So I needed some other mechanism to pull files off for debugging and...
there you are....
On 9/6/22 3:41 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote:
Johnny Billquist <bqt(a)softjar.se> wrote:
The -2020 will be tricky to get up on HECnet, though. As far as I
remember/know, it only officially had Phase III.
And you need to run
TOPS-20 V4.
Not sure if Tops-10 ever had DECnet on them, but
if it did, I would
suspect it's the same story there. The -2020s
I ever used just ran
Tops-10 with ANF-10.
Oh, come on - be serious... TOPS-10 had DECnet Phase-IV, both on
the KL and the KS (2020) machines. There are even some such machines
on HECnet today!!
$ set host venti
SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET 12:36:12 TTY10 system 4999
Connected to Node LEGATO Line # 0
AUTHORIZED USERS ONLY!
Please LOGIN
.net
[ANF10 network: connected to VENTI(20), located at VENTI(20), 3 nodes]
Node VENTI (20) SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET 18-Nov-21
Node TWONKY (37) TWONKY KS10 TOPS10 7.04 28-Nov-21
Node TWONK2 (40) TWONK2 KS10 TOPS10 7.04 28-Nov-21
[DECnet network: local node VENTI, 17 reachable nodes in area 2]
(2.99) (2.152) (2.153) (2.170) (2.199) A2RTR BOINGO GLDRTR HUSKY
LEGATO
MASTIF REACH THEARK TOMMYT VENTI VENTI2 ZITI
.KJOB
.ini
SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET 12:36:21 TTY10 system 4999
Connected to Node LEGATO Line # 0
AUTHORIZED USERS ONLY!
Please LOGIN
.log 13,730
Job 14 SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET TTY0
Password:
[LGNLAS Last access to [13,730] succeeded on 6-Sep-122:07:27:46]
12:38 6-Sep-122 Tuesday
.set host mim
[Connected to RSX-11M+ system MIM::, using CTERM protocol]
[Type ^\,<RET> to return]
?NRTRMT Required message types not all supported
.
It even understands how to talk to other areas, although MIM doesn’t
seem very friendly.
The 2020 machines never had Ethernet, at least not in any official
capacity. Perhaps that’s what you are confused about? A 2020 only
supported synchronous links and could only be an end node.
Bob
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