I can personally attest that portions of the Tops-10 DECnet implementation are quite robust.  I have several hours worth of tests that I have run against Kermit-10 on VENTI:: (Tops-10) from VENTI2:: (Tops-20).  That cross platform regression testing has enabled me to find several bugs and I am hopeful of doing something similar against Ultrix at some point.

Why 'portions'?  The reason I started the NRT implementation for Tops-29 Kermit was because the regression tests I was running on Tops-20 DAP were blowing Tops-10 FAL right out of the water; bad enough that Bob had to reboot the machine.

So I needed some other mechanism to pull files off for debugging and... there you are....

On 9/6/22 3:41 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote:

> Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> wrote:
>The -2020 will be tricky to get up on HECnet, though. As far as I

>remember/know, it only officially had Phase III. And you need to run

>TOPS-20 V4.

> 

>Not sure if Tops-10 ever had DECnet on them, but if it did, I would

>suspect it's the same story there. The -2020s I ever used just ran

>Tops-10 with ANF-10.

 

  Oh, come on - be serious...  TOPS-10 had DECnet Phase-IV, both on the KL and the KS (2020) machines.  There are even some such machines on HECnet today!!

 

$ set host venti

 

SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET 12:36:12 TTY10 system 4999

Connected to Node LEGATO Line # 0

AUTHORIZED USERS ONLY!

Please LOGIN

 

.net

[ANF10 network: connected to VENTI(20), located at VENTI(20), 3 nodes]

Node    VENTI   (20)    SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET        18-Nov-21

Node    TWONKY  (37)    TWONKY KS10 TOPS10 7.04 28-Nov-21

Node    TWONK2  (40)    TWONK2 KS10 TOPS10 7.04 28-Nov-21

 

[DECnet network: local node VENTI, 17 reachable nodes in area 2]

(2.99)  (2.152) (2.153) (2.170) (2.199) A2RTR   BOINGO  GLDRTR  HUSKY   LEGATO

MASTIF  REACH   THEARK  TOMMYT  VENTI   VENTI2  ZITI

 

 

.KJOB

.ini

 

SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET 12:36:21 TTY10 system 4999

Connected to Node LEGATO Line # 0

AUTHORIZED USERS ONLY!

Please LOGIN

 

.log 13,730

Job 14  SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET  TTY0

Password:

[LGNLAS Last access to [13,730] succeeded on  6-Sep-122:07:27:46]

12:38    6-Sep-122   Tuesday

 

.set host mim

 

[Connected to RSX-11M+ system MIM::, using CTERM protocol]

[Type ^\,<RET> to return]

 

?NRTRMT Required message types not all supported

 

.

 

  It even understands how to talk to other areas, although MIM doesn’t seem very friendly.

 

  The 2020 machines never had Ethernet, at least not in any official capacity.  Perhaps that’s what you are confused about?  A 2020 only supported synchronous links and could only be an end node.

 

Bob

 

 


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