16 Oct
2022
16 Oct
'22
3:06 a.m.
On 2022-10-15 20:39, Paul Koning wrote:
You can find most all images on MIM::DU:[5,54]*ENG*.SYS
Also, if I remember right, the DELUA manual (or if it was the DEUNA
one), do contain a lot about MOP, and you also have the free mopd which
you can find in the NetBSD distribution among other places.
You're talking about the install layered products process? That is
pretty nice, but it's a different thing than what RPM does.
RPM is basically having packages you download as one file, and you do an
installation without any more answers or processing by the user, and it
installs the package and makes it available for you in one go. In
addition, it also (sortof) keeps track of package dependencies and
install those also if needed, and it can do updates of packages if a new
version have been "released". I've done RPM packages for many DEC
layered products, but also for lots of other things.
See http://mim.stupi.net/rpmpkg for a list.
Johnny
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On Oct 15, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Dave McGuire
<mcguire(a)neurotica.com> wrote:
...
LSSM has a big Itanium2 VMS machine that's our always-on HECnet node. It also
provides MOP services for our DECserver terminal servers, etc. Because the transatlantic
links can sometimes be a bit slow, and there are several RSX-11M-PLUS systems between LSSM
and my place, I maintain a local copy of the RPM repository on that system, that I copy
periodically from MIM:: and all local instances of rpm are configured to point at that.
One of these days I hope to add MOP load/dump to PyDECnet. For that some network traces
of how VMS loads a terminal server would be helpful, along with a copy of the image it
uses. What I'd
really love to see is similar efforts for RSTS/E and VMS. (and maybe even RT-11,
eventually) I've not done any serious DCL coding for probably twenty years, but maybe
I could take a look at that at some point.
Late version RSTS installation seems to be about as seamless as an RPM-type tool; I think
it's little more than saying "install" and supplying a kit tape that
contains the relevant scripts and binaries. I haven't spent much time with how it
actually works.