31 Jul
2020
31 Jul
'20
11:48 a.m.
On 2020-07-31 11:26, Keith Halewood wrote:
There's always DEC/HECnet mail :)
Indeed. :-)
I don't think there is anyone (yet) subscribed with an address on
HECnet, but maybe that will come.
I also extended BQTMAIL running on MIM a while ago, so that there is now
an API and hooks in there so I could write a mailing list daemon if I
wanted to. I just haven't come around to doing anything more yet. But I
am slightly amused by the idea of having the mailing list managed from
RSX... And I could have all subscribers in a Datatrieve database. ;-)
Johnny
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of
Johnny Billquist
Sent: 31 July 2020 09:59
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Mailing list...
On 2020-07-31 08:48, Rob Jarratt wrote:
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
I use a very common ISP (Virgin Media) in the UK.
I know that sometimes emails to me get bounced because of DKIM or whatever (I know very
little about these things). I know that people in the know think that these spam
protection systems are no good, I don't know why because as I said I know little about
all this, although it seems to me that the *intent* behind those systems is good. However,
it seems to me that, for whatever reason, they are used by a lot of the major ISPs, so
might you end up excluding a lot of people if you unsubscribe them for using an ISP that
uses these measures?
Like I said, I started testing DKIM and SPF a couple of months ago for a different server
that I manage myself. End result was that some sites then started blocking me just because
of that, since then they thought they knew more about me. Other started spamming me with
various reports that just was not useful at all. In the end, I removed the DKIM and SPF
information, because it actually did cause more problems than it solved.
I do not enjoy having to unsubscribe people, but at some point the rejects are just
becoming too many, and I give up on that address.
I really wouldn't want to change my ISP just
for one mailing list, because I also get TV and phone all through the same provider, so it
would be quite disruptive. But I think it would be good if you were able to tell people
that you choose to unsubscribe. I have a Hotmail account I could use instead if I really
had to.
Well, I could probably try to do a bit better, but since the list mails are getting
bounced, the risk is that my other mails will also bounce, so it's a bit hard to even
tell them that things are broken.
And for those who asked - I don't have any brilliant plans or ideas. I sometimes do
check if there is something I can do with individual sites that refuse, but most of the
time there isn't actually much I can do, and if it continues, I eventually just give
in and unsubscribe the person. I wish there were some other way of handling this that I
could think of, which is why I'm also asking around.
Johnny