It's the way of the world...
FIOS and OO are in _intense_ competition on Long Island and are now 
claiming 2 Gbps speeds.  Further, they will put together an /incredible/ 
introductory package price.  The downside is that you have to be careful 
about what you ask for and how you ask for it because then you lose the 
package price and it's BRING YOUR WALLET... The non-package or business 
prices are easily 6 to 20 times the cost of the introductory package 
prices and you get nowhere near the speed (not that you would 
consistently get it, anyway)
To their defense, however, because they have access to and can therefore 
control anything in the ONT/router combo, they have the option of having 
better instrumentation and doing better trouble-shooting, which might 
save a tech visit.  Of course, I don't like the idea of that kind of 
pervasive monitoring, either.
    "You can usually request a fibre to Ethernet bridge from your ISP
    (Optimum does do this) and you can use your own router with an
    Ethernet WAN port."
That sounds like that will do the trick; can you point me at anything 
about that?  I'll give them a call, later.
Thanks!!
 
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 On 7/19/23 2:06 PM, dave.g4ugm(a)gmail.com wrote:
 Thomas,
  I don’t think you can buy an ONT as I think it does some network 
 filtering and the ISP needs to know its MAC address or similar…
 … this seems to confirm….
 
https://www.cabletv.com/optimum/compatible-modem-routers
 … the optimum combo is being slagged off everywhere. It appears to 
 have no support for port mapping, I wonder if they are using CGNAT…
https://www.reddit.com/r/OPTIMUM/comments/k703ni/anyone_with_fiber_experime…
 … elsewhere
https://www.reddit.com/r/FiberOptics/comments/w81umo/just_hopped_onto_fiber…
 it says…
 You can usually request a fibre to Ethernet bridge from your ISP 
 (Optimum does do this) and you can use your own router with an 
 Ethernet WAN port.
 Dave
 *From:*Thomas DeBellis <tommytimesharing(a)gmail.com>
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2023 5:47 PM
 *To:* The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
 *Subject:* [HECnet] ONT?
 I'm moving in a few days and am trying to understand what to do about 
 connectivity without drowning (in advertising or whining).
 I currently have FIOS and had ordered it so that I had a separate 
 Optical Network Terminal (ONT) and router.  I plugged my own router 
 into the ONT and the FIOS router into my router and all has been well.
 The Internet provider at the new location is Optimum Online which 
 previously had been a lot easier to deal with than FIOS as you could 
 just plug into the cable modem or get your own.  Naturally, I was 
 provided with a combo ONT/Wireless/Router solution that just isn't 
 going to cut it.  I'm trying to search for an ONT, but am getting 
 deluged with the usual stream of noise, junk and advertising.  For 
 example, I'm getting Optical-Ethernet converters, which I don't think 
 are what I want.
 Can anybody point me at a few ONT-only solutions that don't come with 
 all the extra garbage, don't do NAT, Etc.?  Or some kind of good 
 introductory information without all the blinking ads?
 TOMMYT:: [2.520] and VENTI2:: [2.522] will be offline for a few days 
 towards the end of the week.