It's the way of the world...


FIOS and OO are in intense competition on Long Island and are now claiming 2 Gbps speeds.  Further, they will put together an incredible introductory package price.  The downside is that you have to be careful about what you ask for and how you ask for it because then you lose the package price and it's BRING YOUR WALLET...  The non-package or business prices are easily 6 to 20 times the cost of the introductory package prices and you get nowhere near the speed (not that you would consistently get it, anyway)


To their defense, however, because they have access to and can therefore control anything in the ONT/router combo, they have the option of having better instrumentation and doing better trouble-shooting, which might save a tech visit.  Of course, I don't like the idea of that kind of pervasive monitoring, either.

"You can usually request a fibre to Ethernet bridge from your ISP (Optimum does do this) and you can use your own router with an Ethernet WAN port."

That sounds like that will do the trick; can you point me at anything about that?  I'll give them a call, later.

Thanks!!

 On 7/19/23 2:06 PM, dave.g4ugm@gmail.com wrote:

 

Thomas,

 

 I don’t think you can buy an ONT as I think it does some network filtering and the ISP needs to know its MAC address or similar…

… this seems to confirm….

 

https://www.cabletv.com/optimum/compatible-modem-routers

 

… the optimum combo is being slagged off everywhere. It appears to have no support for port mapping, I wonder if they are using CGNAT…

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/OPTIMUM/comments/k703ni/anyone_with_fiber_experimented_with_a_gpon_ont/

 

… elsewhere

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/FiberOptics/comments/w81umo/just_hopped_onto_fiber_questions_about_swapping/

 

it says…

 

You can usually request a fibre to Ethernet bridge from your ISP (Optimum does do this) and you can use your own router with an Ethernet WAN port.

 

Dave


From: Thomas DeBellis <tommytimesharing@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 5:47 PM
To: The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list <hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] ONT?

 

I'm moving in a few days and am trying to understand what to do about connectivity without drowning (in advertising or whining).

I currently have FIOS and had ordered it so that I had a separate Optical Network Terminal (ONT) and router.  I plugged my own router into the ONT and the FIOS router into my router and all has been well.

The Internet provider at the new location is Optimum Online which previously had been a lot easier to deal with than FIOS as you could just plug into the cable modem or get your own.  Naturally, I was provided with a combo ONT/Wireless/Router solution that just isn't going to cut it.  I'm trying to search for an ONT, but am getting deluged with the usual stream of noise, junk and advertising.  For example, I'm getting Optical-Ethernet converters, which I don't think are what I want.

Can anybody point me at a few ONT-only solutions that don't come with all the extra garbage, don't do NAT, Etc.?  Or some kind of good introductory information without all the blinking ads?

TOMMYT:: [2.520] and VENTI2:: [2.522] will be offline for a few days towards the end of the week.