10 Mar
2019
10 Mar
'19
4:29 p.m.
Supratim,
On 2019-03-10 16:23, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
Hum... The Panda release would be MRCs stuff. Wasn't that for the KS?
Maybe I'm misremembering. MRC did play with KLH10 as well, I seem to
remember.
As far as basics of TOPS-20 goes... Wow. That could be a big subject.
Make sure you have an account with the WHEEL bit set. Then enable the
privileged commands (it was either ENABLE or ^E ENABLE). After that, you
could go into OPR to start fooling around with operator stuff.
From OPR, you can then get into NCP for DECnet stuff, for example.
Johnny
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On 3/10/19 10:40 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Well, I guess with a PDP-10, that is out of the question.
As far as I am aware, it was never supported to
have more than one
NIA-20 on a KL10.
Also, since I think that TOPS-20 is endnode only, I suspect it would
be of limited use, had it even been supported.
(Yes, you could have had a second interface for just fallback, in case
the first one broke, but it was rare that you would have two separate
ethernets in the first place, so then it would only be if the NIA-20
itself broke, but then you'd probably want to power down the machine
anyhow.)
Very likely true. The original KL10 doc clearly says only one NIC is
supported. I just try my best to keep my DECnet and IP subnets isolated
if I can; two NICs help. I know of
KLH10s, but I don't know if any have a guest account.
Although, I'm not sure what you think you would see from inside TOPS-20.
Never seen or logged into a TOP-20 system ... as you say below, curious
about what it looks like. Anyway, have a Panda release up now, working
through tips for the basics. But it's a good question if there is any
TOPS-20 machine on HECnet
with guest account. I guess it could be interesting for others to just
experience what TOPS-20 looks and feels like.
I don't have any myself.
?? Johnny
On 2019-03-10 15:28, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
Starting from zero with both KLH10 and TOPS-20.
Newbie questions,
surely:
1) Is there a KLH10 distribution for Linux that supports VDE2? (It
appears it was at the least added? to the NetBSD target by Olaf
'Rhialto' Seibert after being reuested by Cory Smelosky, going by
https://github.com/PDP-10/klh10/issues/2)
2) Is it possible in KLH10 to have two network adapters, for example,
something like
# DECnet adapter
devdef ni0 564 ni20 dedic=true ifmeth=vde ifc=/tmp/vde-dnet
enaddr=aa:00:04:00:XX:YY
# IP adapter
devdef ni1 1500 ni20 dedic=true ifmeth=vde ifc=/tmp/vde-ip
enaddr=12:34:56:aa:bb:cc
3) Are there any KLH10 TOPS-20 systems active on HECnet now on which
I could have an account to look around?
Thanks
Supratim