On 2021-10-28 02:44, Peter Lothberg wrote:
The MCB is a phase-3 node. I guess T20 used the same
stuff as T10
for the MCB, code is here:
http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/decnet_mcb_cusps_703a/index.html
It's RSX "based" so maybe Johnny could make it Phase-4?
Anything is possible, but I suspect that could be quite some effort. :-)
Johnny
On tops10 the problem with the MCB and DDCMP etc was solved with the
"DDP" device that made a line (sync or async) on a ANF10 DN87*
frontend a DDCPM device.
That way a Tops10 monitor that was phase-4 could speak sync/async
to another phase-4 node.
I sent the tapes and disk packs with MRC's 4.x and 5.x tops20
for 2020 to LCM.
The 4.x DECnet over DDCMP DUP/KMC for 2020 has reduced "segment size'
from 576 to 390 or something like that due to limited buffer space.
-p
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> I had been wanting to put some DDCMP code back into later versions of
> Tops-20.? I don't believe it exists in 5, 6 or 7.? I'm not sure if it
> made it into MRC's version of 5 for the KS and those sources have yet to
> be recovered.
>
> A KL class machine communicates with DECnet via the CI, the NI or a DTE,
> which is a connection to a DN20.? A DN20 is a PDP-11 running DECnet (I
> think it's MCB), but I believe you are limited to Phase III.? The last
> time I was in that particular neck of the monitor woods, I believe I saw
> that the Phase IV router code would not use a DN20 as a router.? I'm
> pretty sure it would hand packets to to any node that the DN20 knew about.
>
> It didn't look like it would be a big deal to remove that restriction to
> the DN20, but my recollection was that they never spoke full Phase IV.
> So I would need something simulating a 'smart' DN20.? Maybe a brilliant
> DN20.
>
> Or I could make the KMC/DUP look like a MASSBUS device, adapt the 4.2
> UNIBUS based drivers to use that hardware paradigm and then simulate the
> hardware and then graft the 4.2 DDCMP code to be another transport
> option for the router.
>
> For some very strange reason, this is my idea of fun.
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