SCO might be another example of what I was talking about.? They were
getting blown out of the water by Linux and other vendors and were
behind in functionality in a number of areas.? So maybe they went after
the big money (I.E., IBM) to address the cash crunch so they could fund
resources to bring the product up to date.
Lawyers do what lawyers do, which typically isn't coding.? SCO needed
both cash and coding, but I think they picked the wrong target.? IBM's
lawyers are, well, legendary.
On 3/7/20 2:29 PM, Keith Halewood wrote:
I wonder how long it?ll be before VSI goes the way of SCO and
eventually owned mostly by lawyers who persuaded the executives that
hounding the hobbyists was the most profitable thing to do?.
*From:*owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
*On Behalf Of *Bill Cunningham
*Sent:* 07 March 2020 19:27
*To:* hecnet at Update.UU.SE
*Subject:* Re: [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing
It sounds like? a real shame. A lot of programmers have developed some
much for openvms, and now they are just going to stop it. To bring VMS
up to date so to speak; that would be "artistic" ownership under
federal law. A wall owner was just sued over tearing down his wall
that graffiti artists drew on. It's not all just HP here.
On 3/7/2020 1:58 PM, William Pechter wrote:
The cost of a VMS Vax license would probably be more than a
license for later hardware and the hardware.
There's been no bug fixes to the last Vax versions and if you get
the Vax license - - if offered - - the ability to keep the HW
running gets harder yearly.
A multi thousand dollar/yr license to run on? Simh would suck.?
$50/Yr might be doable for a hobby.? Perhaps someone could propose
something so VSI could offset costs.
Bill
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Sent: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 13:50
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing
I have received t too. They say ifyou want long term licenses, buy
it! dig out the coins.
On 3/7/2020 2:12 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
Yes, I have received it too. I think this is just corporate
speak for saying that they are closing the hobbyist licensing
program, presumably because they no longer support VMS. I
think they should officially release the PAK tool, or allow
hobbyists to request non-expiring licenses (although that
wouldn?t help new hobbyists).
Regards
Rob
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<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> *On Behalf Of *David Moylan
*Sent:* 07 March 2020 05:14
*To:* hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
*Subject:* [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is
closing
Hi all,
Just received the e-mail below. I?ve hunted around all the
various Hobbyist locations and licensing pages and can?t find
any additional information.
I?ve already replied back to ask what the impact of Hobbyist
renewal licensing will be. I have no further information at
this stage.
Have others received this as well? Does anyone have any
further knowledge on this?
I can see a few people have forwarded/posted the same message
on comp.os.vms.
Cheers, Wiz!!
*From:*OpenVMS Customer Lab [mailto:openvmscustomerlab at
hpe.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, 7 March 2020 3:13 PM
*Cc:* OpenVMS Customer Lab
*Subject:* OpenVMS Hobbyist Notification
Dear HPE OpenVMS hobbyist,
This is to inform you that HPE is concluding the HPE OpenVMS
Hobbyist license program in alignment with the HPE OpenVMS
support roadmap.
If you wish to understand more details, please reach out to us
at the earliest through the usual license renewal webpage.
Thank you.
HPE OpenVMS team