11 Dec
2019
11 Dec
'19
4:51 a.m.
That's interesting, I wonder what context it executes under on the
remote system?? Running on the console under Tops-10 used to be able to
get you the ability to run INITIA and sign on as whomever you wanted, no
password.? But that was a 5.00 series monitor; I don't know if they
changed that.? On Tops-20, if you bounce the keys hard enough, you can
wind up the in the mini-exec, which is not a good thing.
Changing your user id is one of the few things that's a cinch on Unix.?
You 'just' do a SETUID to the user in question and now for all intents
and purposes, you are them.
No such luck on Tops-20 or as I recall, Tops-10.? On Tops-10, you have
to run the LOGIN or INITIA program from SYS: so you get the JACCT bit
set and then you can set your PPN.? On Tops-20, you can only execute the
LOGIN% JSYS when you are not logged in.? Once you are logged in, you
can't execute LOGIN% ever again, even if you have WHEEL or OPERATOR
capabilities; this effectively broke my implementation of REIN for FTP.
You've got to start a complete new job context.? So to execute, I guess
you'd have to grab a pseudo-terminal and fire up a job on it, perhaps
via CRJOB%.? But now you're talking about what BATCON does, so what's
the point?
I definitely couldn't whack the user context in FAL, it unfortunately
has run with OPERATOR.? To do it right, I'd need to modify the monitor
to give FAL its own (un-logged in) job slot and then have it do the
LOGIN% based on what is passed to it.
I'd looked at the monitor code a few months ago; looks doable. Actually
it looked easier than putting RENAME in.? I guess I'll look at that some
more after I get the ANONYMOUS FAL up.
On 12/10/19 6:45 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2019-12-11 00:39, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2019-12-11 00:34, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
[...]
To quote the online help:
.nft /id
NFT -- Version V9.0
Local NFARs V8?? DAP V7.1 Buffer size=? 2064. OS=RSX-11M+ FS=FCS-11
DC=Yes
.nft /he
?NFT is the Network File Transfer utility.? It can perform file
?transfers and file operations over the network.
?Information is available for the following operations:
???? APPEND (/AP) .............. File Append commands
???? COPY ...................... File Transfer commands
???? DELETE (/DE) .............. File Deletion commands
???? DEFAULTS (/DF) ............ Set/Examine Defaults commands
???? DIRECTORY (/AT,/BR,/LI,/FU) Directory list commands
???? EXECUTE (/EX) ............. File Execution commands
???? IDENTIFY (/ID) ............ Identify commands
???? PROTECTION (/PR)........... File Protection commands
???? RENAME (/RE) .............. File Rename command
???? SPOOL (/SP) ............... File Spooling commands
???? SUBMIT (/SB) .............. File Submission commands
?And the following subjects:
???? DATA CHECKING (/DC) ....... Remote file transfer data checking
???? FILESPECS ................. File Specification syntax
???? NODE NAMES ................ Node and Access control syntax
???? MODES (/AS,/AX,/BK,/IM,/RC) File transfer Mode switches
???? QUOTES .................... Quoting foreign filespecs
???? SWITCHES .................. NFT switch summary
???? VERSION NUMBERS ........... Version number processing
.nft help ex
? To execute a file, or a several files which are located on a remote
? node, the command format is:
??? NFT>filespec1[,filespec2,...,filespecN]/EX
? Valid qualifiers are:
??????? /LO
.nft help sb
? To submit a file, or several files to a remote system, the command
? format is:
??????? NFT>[outfilespec]=infilespec1[,...,infilespecn]/SB
? Valid qualifiers are:
??????? /AS, /AX, /BK, /DC, /IM, /NV, /RC, /LO
? Johnny
What is the difference in practice between
functions 7 (SUBMIT) and
8 (EXECUTE)?? In both cases, Tops-20 submits the file as a Batch job
to Galaxy, this being the only way to construct the proper user
context.
In RSX, SUBMIT would be something placed in a batch queue, but
EXECUTE would be something that was run directly, if I remember
right. (I could be confused.) You do not need a user context in the
same sense under RSX in order to run programs. Such program would be
run under the console terminal.