11 Nov
2021
11 Nov
'21
2:13 p.m.
Netupdatev3.com on DUNE does some checking for ?your? range of nodes in an area and
outputs a slightly more optimal set of commands for NCP. It also throws out a pydecnet
node list too.
Keith
On 11 Nov 2021, at 12:14, Steve Davidson <steve at
davidson.net> wrote:
?NETUPDATE.COM (VMS only) checks two things: first it checks the record against the
current node name and if equal skips the record. Second, if the database is being run
against a cluster then it additionally ignores all of the nodes in that area. This way
all of the Satellite information is not altered thus rendering satellite boot non
functional.
Similar behavior for the first case could probably be applied in most of the command line
interpreters.
-Steve
SF:IP2
> On Nov 11, 2021, at 06:30, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>
> ?Tony,
>
>>> On 2021-11-11 10:30, Tony Nicholson wrote:
>> Johnny,
>> Under RSTS/E I?ve found I can use FIX.CMD, but I have to comment the definition
for the current node and add a missing definition for MIM.
>
> Ah. Yes, similar "problem" as with RSX in that the own node won't work.
That's the reason MIM is not in there. I should create a different one for others.
FIX.CMD is where I started, and it is very tailored to my own use.
>
>> Then duplicate the definitions changing the ?def nod? to ?set nod? and feed it
into NCP.
>
> Maybe you should look at FIX.COM?
>
>> When I update pydecnet using a new nodenames.dat I also use
>> $ ncp copy known nodes from TNRTR to both
>> (TNRTR Is my pydecnet router)
>
> That definitely works in VMS. Does that also work in RSTS/E?
>
> With that said, while generated command files are all nice and good, for at least VMS
and RSX, I would actually recommend people use the provided DECnet tools instead.
>
>
> In RSX:
>
>> RUN LB:[5,54]NNCFSL
>
> and collect the nodes from MIM, and then:
>
> SCP STOP
> SCP START
>
> and you have the new nodenames in there.
>
>
> In VMS (as mentioned above):
>
> $ NCP COPY KNOWN NODES FROM MIM TO BOTH
>
> If the VMS solution also works in RSTS/E that is really nice.
>
> Johnny
>
>> Tony
>>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 19:54, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
>> If a specific format is needed for RSTS/E nodes, I can create that
>> format file whenever the nodename database is updated. Just let me know
>> what the format should be.
>> At the moment, the following files are created:
>> FIX.T20 (for TOPS-20)
>> FIX.COM <http://FIX.COM> (for VMS)
>> HECNET.PY (for PyDECnet)
>> FIX.CMD (for RSX)
>> All can be found at MIM::HECNET:
>> Johnny
>> --
>> Tony Nicholson <tony.nicholson at computer.org <mailto:tony.nicholson at
computer.org>>
>
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