11 Nov
2021
11 Nov
'21
8:28 p.m.
Version 2 is far more robust if you can find a copy. My gateway is still down ? it may be
some time before it returns. It takes the raw nodenames.dat file , parses it and creates a
?.com? procedure. All the logic is in netupdatev2.com. The resulting procedure is dumb but
gets the job done. It can be submitted to batch. It does define and set.
I?ll see what I can come up with for RSTS/E this weekend based on similar logic and post
it. When PLUTO:: or ARK:: (yes Paul, ARK::) return to the network it will be in the
default DECnet account on those systems as well as on node SGC::.
FYI: Like DEC, ARK:: is an 11/70 with 2 of ?everything? except running under SimH. It
also has most sources (not DECnet unfortunately though? SIGH?)
-Steve
SF:IP2
On Nov 11, 2021, at 13:24, Supratim Sanyal
<supratim at riseup.net> wrote:
?
On 11/11/21 7:14 AM, Steve Davidson wrote:
NETUPDATE.COM (VMS only) checks two things: first it checks the record against the
current node name and if equal skips the record. Second, if the database is being run
against a cluster then it additionally ignores all of the nodes in that area. This way
all of the Satellite information is not altered thus rendering satellite boot non
functional.
Yes - I am a major user of NETUPDATE.COM. Runs weekly to sync up IMPVAX
with MIM, and runs on many VAXen to sync from IMPVAX. Thanks Steve.
$! NETUPDATE.COM
$!
$! Version: V1.0-004
$!
$!
$! Edit history:
$!
$! 16-Jun-2010 15:45 S. Davidson 004 - add logicals and auto-update
$! 14-Jun-2010 11:30 S. Davidson 003 - procedure no longer returns
$! specific file version - allows
$! NETUPDATE.COM to be updated in
$! place
$! 14-Jun-2010 11:06 S. Davidson 002 - Fixed "on error" syntax
$! 03-Jun-2010 00:00 S. Davidson 001 - Initial creation
Similar behavior for the first case could
probably be applied in most of the command line interpreters.
-Steve
SF:IP2
>> On Nov 11, 2021, at 06:30, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>
>> ?Tony,
>>
>>> On 2021-11-11 10:30, Tony Nicholson wrote:
>>> Johnny,
>>> Under RSTS/E I?ve found I can use FIX.CMD, but I have to comment the
definition for the current node and add a missing definition for MIM.
>> Ah. Yes, similar "problem" as with RSX in that the own node won't
work. That's the reason MIM is not in there. I should create a different one for
others. FIX.CMD is where I started, and it is very tailored to my own use.
>>
>> Then duplicate the definitions changing the ?def nod? to ?set nod? and feed it
into NCP.
> Maybe you should look at FIX.COM?
>
>> When I update pydecnet using a new nodenames.dat I also use
>> $ ncp copy known nodes from TNRTR to both
>> (TNRTR Is my pydecnet router)
> That definitely works in VMS. Does that also work in RSTS/E?
>
> With that said, while generated command files are all nice and good, for at least VMS
and RSX, I would actually recommend people use the provided DECnet tools instead.
>
>
> In RSX:
>
>> RUN LB:[5,54]NNCFSL
> and collect the nodes from MIM, and then:
>
> SCP STOP
> SCP START
>
> and you have the new nodenames in there.
>
>
> In VMS (as mentioned above):
>
> $ NCP COPY KNOWN NODES FROM MIM TO BOTH
>
> If the VMS solution also works in RSTS/E that is really nice.
>
> Johnny
>
>> Tony
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 19:54, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
>> If a specific format is needed for RSTS/E nodes, I can create that
>> format file whenever the nodename database is updated. Just let me know
>> what the format should be.
>> At the moment, the following files are created:
>> FIX.T20 (for TOPS-20)
>> FIX.COM <http://FIX.COM> (for VMS)
>> HECNET.PY (for PyDECnet)
>> FIX.CMD (for RSX)
>> All can be found at MIM::HECNET:
>> Johnny
>> --
>> Tony Nicholson <tony.nicholson at computer.org <mailto:tony.nicholson at
computer.org>>
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