31 Jul
2020
31 Jul
'20
10:58 a.m.
On 2020-07-31 08:48, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I use a very common ISP (Virgin Media) in the UK. I
know that sometimes emails to me get bounced because of DKIM or whatever (I know very
little about these things). I know that people in the know think that these spam
protection systems are no good, I don't know why because as I said I know little about
all this, although it seems to me that the *intent* behind those systems is good. However,
it seems to me that, for whatever reason, they are used by a lot of the major ISPs, so
might you end up excluding a lot of people if you unsubscribe them for using an ISP that
uses these measures?
Like I said, I started testing DKIM and SPF a couple of months ago for a
different server that I manage myself. End result was that some sites
then started blocking me just because of that, since then they thought
they knew more about me. Other started spamming me with various reports
that just was not useful at all. In the end, I removed the DKIM and SPF
information, because it actually did cause more problems than it solved.
I do not enjoy having to unsubscribe people, but at some point the
rejects are just becoming too many, and I give up on that address.
I really wouldn't want to change my ISP just for
one mailing list, because I also get TV and phone all through the same provider, so it
would be quite disruptive. But I think it would be good if you were able to tell people
that you choose to unsubscribe. I have a Hotmail account I could use instead if I really
had to.
Well, I could probably try to do a bit better, but since the list mails
are getting bounced, the risk is that my other mails will also bounce,
so it's a bit hard to even tell them that things are broken.
And for those who asked - I don't have any brilliant plans or ideas. I
sometimes do check if there is something I can do with individual sites
that refuse, but most of the time there isn't actually much I can do,
and if it continues, I eventually just give in and unsubscribe the
person. I wish there were some other way of handling this that I could
think of, which is why I'm also asking around.
Johnny
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