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Re: 3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by sampsa＠mac.com

On 27 Nov 2012, at 07:15, Gregg Levine wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 11/26/2012 02:00 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: He says he's selling an AT&T Unix PC 3B1, only found a monitor and a motherboard that's untested. It'd be a pretty nifty addition to a collection, I'd love a really old school Unix machine. If memory serves, the UNIX dialect that they run is SysV release 2. It's a fairly complete SysV implementation, with a nice, low-overhead GUI called "UA", for User Agent. There is no networking, but there's a (rare) Ethernet card for the machine, which was shipped with an IP stack written by Wollongong. The IP stack ran in short spurts between crashes, but you could use it to get stuff on or off the machine. Well there's always Kermit and UUCP - and one could always plug a few serial ports into a DECserver or something to get "networking" into the device :) Sampsa

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3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 11/26/2012 02:00 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: He says he's selling an AT&T Unix PC 3B1, only found a monitor and a motherboard that's untested. It'd be a pretty nifty addition to a collection, I'd love a really old school Unix machine. I'd not call the 3B1 "old school", but they're lots of fun. I've had a bunch of them over the years, including used one as my main desktop machine for a while in the late 1980s. I also worked at a store that sold and serviced them. If memory serves, the UNIX dialect that they run is SysV release 2. It's a fairly complete SysV implementation, with a nice, low-overhead GUI called "UA", for User Agent. There is no networking, but there's a (rare) Ethernet card for the machine, which was shipped with an IP stack written by Wollongong. The IP stack ran in short spurts between crashes, but you could use it to get stuff on or off the machine. I have two 3B1s now. I like them a lot. If you really want "old school UNIX", find a 3B2. Or REALLY old school, v7 on a PDP-11. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA Hello! Yikes! I knew an AT&T 7300 machine once. It was an interesting machine. I almost ended up with it when the store I was (temporarily) associated with here in Queens was forced out of business by its <DELETED!> of a landlord. I also saw a 3B family machine at that same show where we met. The owners couldn't get the thing to work, but the terminal ran rather well. Now why is there an entire van of Yetis and four Cybermen and six Daleks watching you? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 11/26/2012 02:00 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: He says he's selling an AT&T Unix PC 3B1, only found a monitor and a motherboard that's untested. It'd be a pretty nifty addition to a collection, I'd love a really old school Unix machine. I'd not call the 3B1 "old school", but they're lots of fun. I've had a bunch of them over the years, including used one as my main desktop machine for a while in the late 1980s. I also worked at a store that sold and serviced them. If memory serves, the UNIX dialect that they run is SysV release 2. It's a fairly complete SysV implementation, with a nice, low-overhead GUI called "UA", for User Agent. There is no networking, but there's a (rare) Ethernet card for the machine, which was shipped with an IP stack written by Wollongong. The IP stack ran in short spurts between crashes, but you could use it to get stuff on or off the machine. I have two 3B1s now. I like them a lot. If you really want "old school UNIX", find a 3B2. Or REALLY old school, v7 on a PDP-11. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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US Seller with some interesting stuff

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

-----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Benson Sent: 26 November 2012 18:55 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE; dectec at dectec.info Subject: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff I CANNOT VOUCH FOR THIS PERSON'S CREDENTIALS, I found this via an e- mail search I have running on eBay I don't know the guy, but he has a decent amount of positive feedback and the items are largely listed well. He's apparently in California, so consider that before bidding. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Veva-and-Daves-Stuff?_rdc=1 There's a good deal of DEC stuff in there, including a VAXStation 4000/60 and some install CD-ROMS (one of which is listed wrong and I have left him know) Just thought I'd throw out a heads-up. I have bought from this seller on one occasion and on the basis of that purchase I would recommend the seller as reliable. Regards Rob

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US Seller with some interesting stuff

by clemc＠ccc.com

Hrrumpt... a 3B* is hardly old school. Old school is at Version 5 or 6 or maybe as late as Version 7 running an 11/40 class system ;-) On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:00 PM, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: I'd love a really old school Unix machine

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US Seller with some interesting stuff

by b4＠gewt.net

On 26 Nov 2012, at 14:00, sampsa at mac.com wrote: He says he's selling an AT&T Unix PC 3B1, only found a monitor and a motherboard that's untested. It'd be a pretty nifty addition to a collection, I'd love a really old school Unix machine. Which reminds me, I need to have my friend find his modem and pentium running SysV. Sampsa On 26 Nov 2012, at 20:54, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote: I CANNOT VOUCH FOR THIS PERSON'S CREDENTIALS, I found this via an e-mail search I have running on eBay I don't know the guy, but he has a decent amount of positive feedback and the items are largely listed well. He's apparently in California, so consider that before bidding. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Veva-and-Daves-Stuff?_rdc=1 There's a good deal of DEC stuff in there, including a VAXStation 4000/60 and some install CD-ROMS (one of which is listed wrong and I have left him know) Just thought I'd throw out a heads-up. -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

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US Seller with some interesting stuff

by sampsa＠mac.com

He says he's selling an AT&T Unix PC 3B1, only found a monitor and a motherboard that's untested. It'd be a pretty nifty addition to a collection, I'd love a really old school Unix machine. Sampsa On 26 Nov 2012, at 20:54, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote: I CANNOT VOUCH FOR THIS PERSON'S CREDENTIALS, I found this via an e-mail search I have running on eBay I don't know the guy, but he has a decent amount of positive feedback and the items are largely listed well. He's apparently in California, so consider that before bidding. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Veva-and-Daves-Stuff?_rdc=1 There's a good deal of DEC stuff in there, including a VAXStation 4000/60 and some install CD-ROMS (one of which is listed wrong and I have left him know) Just thought I'd throw out a heads-up. -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

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US Seller with some interesting stuff

by md.benson＠gmail.com

I CANNOT VOUCH FOR THIS PERSON'S CREDENTIALS, I found this via an e-mail search I have running on eBay I don't know the guy, but he has a decent amount of positive feedback and the items are largely listed well. He's apparently in California, so consider that before bidding. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Veva-and-Daves-Stuff?_rdc=1 There's a good deal of DEC stuff in there, including a VAXStation 4000/60 and some install CD-ROMS (one of which is listed wrong and I have left him know) Just thought I'd throw out a heads-up. -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

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Mark Crispin

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

2012 is not a good year... I lurk in alt.sys.pdp10 and alt.folklore.computers so I "met" Mark that way. Sharp mind and tongue, not an easy guy to argue with if you're not comfortable with your data :-) I do hope he is well cared for. Hans ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Johnny Billquist Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] Mark Crispin Verzonden: 24 november 2012 22:27 Some of you on this list knows MRC. Some of you probably also knows that he is terminally ill. I just wanted to let the rest of you know that a great hacker in the Tops-20 world is not going to be around much longer. https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/imap5/current/msg00571.html (That is about all I know, if anyone have anything else, feel free to share.) I've never met MRC in person, but have had many talks over mail with him over the years, and I'm extremely sad by this news myself. :-( Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Mark Crispin

by b4＠gewt.net

On 24 Nov 2012, at 20:57, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: El 25/11/2012, a les 2:55, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> va escriure: That's very sad. I knew Mark thru his work on TOPS20 networking and the Panda Distribution. I'm sure there are several people on this list running TOPS20 emulations using Mark's Panda TOPS20. It was at his suggestion that Spare Time Gizmos made the Panda Display panel so that KLH10 and TOPS20 could have a real blinky lights front panel. He'll be missed. Bob I am one of the PANDA users in this list. I have known TOPS-20 thanks to his effort. This is very sad. I am a Panda user as well. This is very sad indeed. :( Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

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