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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

Is there coax in the place? If so look at MoCa devices. Works really well. -brian On Jan 16, 2013, at 17:12, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Hello! I'm going to be moving some of my equipment to the basement here for several reasons (heat produced, noise, space, et cetera), and in planning i'm hitting a roadblock: networking. I've come up with several ideas: Wireless client-bridge: Linksys e1000 is garbage and doesn't like to pass DECnet or any of those protocols, so i'd either need a workaround or a better router. (workaround being: a virtual cisco tunnel to my other virtual cisco?) (Other router: /real/ Cisco or a another suggestion from someone on this list) Powerline ethernet: Is this reliable yet? How are the transfer speeds? Or: Adding a phone jack, getting DSL on the second line here. (installation costs, but would actually be $2 more/month to upgrade current plan + add a second identical plan not counting hardware rental fees, setup costs, and that stuff) Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. Any (viable) options i'm missing? -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by ian＠platinum.net

If you run cable inside the heating ducts, make sure it's plenum rated (FT6). Ian On 2013-01-16, at 3:16 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/16/2013 05:37 PM, Dennis Boone wrote: Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. "Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days. Agreed. Wireless == suck. (and I design wireless comm gear for a living!) Run the wires. You'll be glad you did. One possibility might be running the cable through your heating ducts, if your house has them. Lots of people have done that with great success. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=C76132B0603211E28…

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/16/2013 06:14 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: 100m That would work for running outside a house between floors I think. ;) Be sure to either use a conduit or use outdoor-rated cable. If sunlight hits standard Ethernet cable, the UV will destroy the outer jacket in short order, and it will just crumble away. You'd be very lucky if it lasted two summers. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 18:16, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/16/2013 05:37 PM, Dennis Boone wrote: Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. "Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days. Agreed. Wireless == suck. (and I design wireless comm gear for a living!) Run the wires. You'll be glad you did. One possibility might be running the cable through your heating ducts, if your house has them. Lots of people have done that with great success. That poses the challenge of getting the cable to go to the right place. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/16/2013 05:37 PM, Dennis Boone wrote: Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. "Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days. Agreed. Wireless == suck. (and I design wireless comm gear for a living!) Run the wires. You'll be glad you did. One possibility might be running the cable through your heating ducts, if your house has them. Lots of people have done that with great success. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 18:13, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: 100m That would work for running outside a house between floors I think. ;) Ian On 2013-01-16, at 2:58 PM, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :) As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal. De --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=4FCFB98A603011E28…

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by ian＠platinum.net

100m Ian On 2013-01-16, at 2:58 PM, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :) As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal. De --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=4FCFB98A603011E28…

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:58, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :) As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal. What's the maximum length for cat5e/6? De

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by drb＠msu.edu

I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :) As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal. De

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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:42, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: I have a similar situation with my garage - my DEC collection lives in the garage, but the Internet connection is in the main house. At the moment, the problem is solved with an Apple Airport in the main house and an Aiport Express in bridge mode in the garage. Unfortunately, this isn't as reliable as I had hoped - I get quite a few dropped packets. I was considering the powerline option. 50Mbps isn't a problem considering the majority of the DEC stuff is 10Mbps half duplex :) I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) Ian On 2013-01-16, at 2:38 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:37, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. "Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days. It'd get messy with drilling holes and running it through walls and whatnot, but I know it'd be the best. De --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=8D8D5FDC602D11E29…

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