Sometime around mid-2022 the Linux kernel developers decided to remove the DECnet code from the Linux
kernel. Kernel 6.0.x was the last release which included source code for a DECnet implementation. More
recently, there has been some discussion around removing the code from the Long Term Support kernels.
These changes mean that the repository I have been maintaining at
<https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet> can no longer be installed on recent releases.
Over the past year or so, I have been working on a replacement for this repository with the following
characteristics:
- Designed to be built as an external kernel module
This simplifies and speeds up the installation since we no longer need to rebuild the entire
kernel.
- Can only be built as an ethernet endnode
Again this substantially simplifies the kernel code. The routing code was alway marked as
“experimental” and I never tried to get it running. If you need a DECnet router, pyDECnet or
Route20 are much better solutions.
- Minimize the use of Linux kernel frameworks
Many of the problems with keeping RaspbianDECnet running between Linux versions
were changes to the kernel framework APIs. By limiting the use of these APIs I am hoping
that the kernel module will need fewer changes to keep up with kernel changes. So far,
I have had to make one additional conditional code change at kernel 6.5 and that was in
the socket layer so all networking code would need to be changed.
In addition to a new kernel module there have been a number of changes to the userland code:
- What used to be “fal2” is now the default file access listener. The old “fal” is still available in the
“fal-old” directory
- What used to be “nml2” is now the default and only network management listener.
- There is now a subset implementation of “ncp” which is sufficient to support all of the requests
available from the Linux network management listener. It does implement a “tell” prefix so all
of these commands may be issued to remote systems. In addition, it implements
“ncp copy known nodes from <node name/address>” to update the local node name database.
- The new kernel module now supports node counters as defined in the Network Management
Specification and the ncp/nml combination are able to display and zero them.
- The installation procedure is no longer targeted solely at Raspberry Pi releases. The current
procedure supports installation on systems derived from Debian or Fedora although only a
limited number of distributions have been tested (see README.DECnet).
This new release is available at:
<https://github.com/JohnForecast/LinuxDECnet>
and should be considered to be in Beta test at this time. See README.DECnet in the top level directory
for more information and installation instructions.
Hey folks. I've gotten a Pro380 running at LSSM, and have just
gotten a DECNA board installed. Can anyone point me to any docs for
Pro/DECnet? I don't see much online. I'd like to get it talking to the
rest of the DECnet machines at the museum and on HECnet. And, ideally,
LAT if possible.
Thanks,
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hi Everyone,
To everyone that has a GRE tunnel to A12RTR, the IP address has changed!
It is now 103.46.213.236, alternatively you can also use either of the
following names:
* tim.sneddon.id.au
* cmkrnl.io
There has been some disruption to my IPv6 config too, but I am
investigating that.
Regards, Tim.
I just found out about this from Terry Kennedy.
A MOP server for RSTS/E, free to use:
https://www.glaver.org/ftp/tmk-software/mop-server/
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
We could definitely make use of that! Can you spare it?
-Dave
On 9/2/23 06:38, Peter Lothberg wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Maybe you need a KS10 repair tool?
>
>
> -P
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave McGuire" <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
> > To: "The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list" <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 6:09:58 PM
> > Subject: [HECnet] Re: pssst...
>
> > Hahaaaa, thank you Fred! You really need to come back for a visit,
> > it has been a while. The guys and I have been very busy; we have a lot
> > more hardware up and running now.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > --
> > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> > New Kensington, PA
> >
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
So Mark (Matlock) has been after me to get my HECnet connection up and running and me, being an ace procrastinator, has always said "Real Soon Now™", Mark.
I might actually have time to do it as I'm on vacation for a week and a half. Despite the heat I could set something up. My question is how do I set it up. I have a Mac Mini in Las Vegas running VMWare ESXi. I have a VM (Aniketos) running Vyos for a firewall/router, another VM with an Nginx web server (Hermes - irrelevant just mentioned for completeness) and a really small (1 vCPU) Linux VM (Knight) which I want to run Paul's PyDECnet router for the world to connect to. From there I have an IPSec VPN to my Ubiquiti EdgeRouter 4 at home. How can I connect DECnet through the VPN to Knight from home? Is it even possible? Do I need or want GRE tunnels through the VPN?
Am I just making it too complicated and should I set up a PyDECnet router at home and go that way through my dynamic IP? It's possible I could set up an x86 OpenVMS machine as another VM
I'm thinking I need a PyDECnet router at home to collect all the DECnet traffic and shove it through the VPN to the PyDECnet router at the remote site and from there out into the internet to it's HECnet connection points. Does that make sense?
I tried drawing an ASCII picture but apparently I suck at that. Hopefully the description makes sense.
Hoping to get people's thoughts and if you're experienced in designing PyDECnet config files, any pointers are welcome.
--
John H. Reinhardt
I'm moving in a few days and am trying to understand what to do about
connectivity without drowning (in advertising or whining).
I currently have FIOS and had ordered it so that I had a separate
Optical Network Terminal (ONT) and router. I plugged my own router into
the ONT and the FIOS router into my router and all has been well.
The Internet provider at the new location is Optimum Online which
previously had been a lot easier to deal with than FIOS as you could
just plug into the cable modem or get your own. Naturally, I was
provided with a combo ONT/Wireless/Router solution that just isn't going
to cut it. I'm trying to search for an ONT, but am getting deluged with
the usual stream of noise, junk and advertising. For example, I'm
getting Optical-Ethernet converters, which I don't think are what I want.
Can anybody point me at a few ONT-only solutions that don't come with
all the extra garbage, don't do NAT, Etc.? Or some kind of good
introductory information without all the blinking ads?
TOMMYT:: [2.520] and VENTI2:: [2.522] will be offline for a few days
towards the end of the week.
The problem with the OO gear is that there is no bridge mode and that I
will be double nat'ed, which makes a number of things hard.
A business connection has been out of the question for some time; it's
really bring your wallet...
The OO website says you can get your own 'modem', but it isn't specific
about an ONT. I use DynDNS, so a static IP isn't really necessary (but
always nice).
On 7/19/23 1:29 PM, system(a)rsx11m.io wrote:
> I don't know that you can bring your own ONT with consumer grade
> internet, at least my understanding has always been that it can't be
> done. I'm not an Optimum customer but I would imagine there is some
> way to disable the routing portion of things and just run an ethernet
> cable from the ONT to your own gear, similar to FIOS. Otherwise, if
> money isn't a huge issue, you might consider a business connection,
> those are generally more lax and you might even get a static IP for
> your troubles.
> On Jul 19, 2023 at 12:47 PM -0400, Thomas DeBellis
> <tommytimesharing(a)gmail.com>, wrote:
>>
>> I'm moving in a few days and am trying to understand what to do about
>> connectivity without drowning (in advertising or whining).
>>
>> I currently have FIOS and had ordered it so that I had a separate
>> Optical Network Terminal (ONT) and router. I plugged my own router
>> into the ONT and the FIOS router into my router and all has been well.
>>
>> The Internet provider at the new location is Optimum Online which
>> previously had been a lot easier to deal with than FIOS as you could
>> just plug into the cable modem or get your own. Naturally, I was
>> provided with a combo ONT/Wireless/Router solution that just isn't
>> going to cut it. I'm trying to search for an ONT, but am getting
>> deluged with the usual stream of noise, junk and advertising. For
>> example, I'm getting Optical-Ethernet converters, which I don't think
>> are what I want.
>>
>> Can anybody point me at a few ONT-only solutions that don't come with
>> all the extra garbage, don't do NAT, Etc.? Or some kind of good
>> introductory information without all the blinking ads?
>>
>> TOMMYT:: [2.520] and VENTI2:: [2.522] will be offline for a few days
>> towards the end of the week.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Area 19 is offline while changes are being made to the network. Additionally, the IP address will change. The new IP address for bridge and pyDECnet connections will be bridge.declab.net when it returns.
Thanks!
-Steve Davidson
STRGTE::SYSTEM
SF:iP1
