On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Just trying to confuse you, and it worked.
And yes I am aware that both you and Dave do wander in the other sides
of the street. (And you too Cory.) JCL is supposed to be peculiar.
There is only one reason for that, and IBM wrote it to confuse us.
IBM likes to confuse people with their special terms. Now we just need to get SNANet tied in to HECnet...I've yet to figure out LCS in hercules though. :(
OV is or rather was Office Vision, and it was a largely internal
system setup to facilitate sending e-mail and stuff all over the
Internal IBM network. Now they use Notes.
No I don't want to know where that OS/390 came from.
It was delivered by a giant rabbit after the plane crashed in to a troubled kid's bedroom.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand it (JCL is insane).
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand it (JCL is insane).
I prefer VM myself. I got TCP/IP going under VM/ESA.
--
Cory Smelosky
Sent from a Sun via a VT320 over LAT!
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Hello!
Just trying to confuse you, and it worked.
And yes I am aware that both you and Dave do wander in the other sides
of the street. (And you too Cory.) JCL is supposed to be peculiar.
There is only one reason for that, and IBM wrote it to confuse us.
OV is or rather was Office Vision, and it was a largely internal
system setup to facilitate sending e-mail and stuff all over the
Internal IBM network. Now they use Notes.
No I don't want to know where that OS/390 came from.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand it (JCL is insane).
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand it (JCL is insane).
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:23, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-27 01:06, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah. Right now I'm trying to figure out why the retransmit timer don't seem to work as it should. Most of the time it isn't needed, so it mostly works fine. But I'm trying the odd bad behaviors...
MIM can go down on short notice right now, as I'm mucking in the kernel...
BTW what happened to the old Mail-11 client on MIM - I really liked the interface on it..
I actually have two mail clients on MIM, even though only one is normally installed. Which one was it you liked? The very plain and simple command line thing, or the rather screen oriented fancy one?
I like the screen-oriented one, feels like I'm on a 3270 connected to OS/390 or something..:)
sampsa
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:23, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-27 01:06, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah. Right now I'm trying to figure out why the retransmit timer don't seem to work as it should. Most of the time it isn't needed, so it mostly works fine. But I'm trying the odd bad behaviors...
MIM can go down on short notice right now, as I'm mucking in the kernel...
BTW what happened to the old Mail-11 client on MIM - I really liked the interface on it..
I actually have two mail clients on MIM, even though only one is normally installed. Which one was it you liked? The very plain and simple command line thing, or the rather screen oriented fancy one?
I like the screen-oriented one, feels like I'm on a 3270 connected to OS/390 or something..:)
sampsa
On 2013-09-27 01:06, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah. Right now I'm trying to figure out why the retransmit timer don't seem to work as it should. Most of the time it isn't needed, so it mostly works fine. But I'm trying the odd bad behaviors...
MIM can go down on short notice right now, as I'm mucking in the kernel...
BTW what happened to the old Mail-11 client on MIM - I really liked the interface on it..
I actually have two mail clients on MIM, even though only one is normally installed. Which one was it you liked? The very plain and simple command line thing, or the rather screen oriented fancy one?
Johnny
Yeah. Right now I'm trying to figure out why the retransmit timer don't seem to work as it should. Most of the time it isn't needed, so it mostly works fine. But I'm trying the odd bad behaviors...
MIM can go down on short notice right now, as I'm mucking in the kernel...
BTW what happened to the old Mail-11 client on MIM - I really liked the interface on it..
sampsa
On 2013-09-27 00:45, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-27 00:40, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:38, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-26 22:46, Sampsa Laine wrote:
When I try accessing the web version of MIM's node database, I get a connection refused error, the URL is: http://madame.update.uu.se/~bqt/nodedb
This literally started a few minutes ago.
Yep. The reason is that I'm rewriting my timer handling in my TCP/IP stack right now, so MIM is not that stable. :-)
Ah shame, I just added a function to my Pyffle conferencing software that uses the webpage to look up HECnet nodes..
Any idea when it'll be stable again? :)
Hopefully within an hour or so.
Actually it seems to work now. Shame it doesn't render that well in Lynx (not a criticism, nothing renders well in Lynx) so might write a bit of Python to pull the nodedb down and query it, display the results in a bit more user-friendly text format.
Yeah. Right now I'm trying to figure out why the retransmit timer don't seem to work as it should. Most of the time it isn't needed, so it mostly works fine. But I'm trying the odd bad behaviors...
MIM can go down on short notice right now, as I'm mucking in the kernel...
Johnny
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-27 00:40, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:38, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-26 22:46, Sampsa Laine wrote:
When I try accessing the web version of MIM's node database, I get a connection refused error, the URL is: http://madame.update.uu.se/~bqt/nodedb
This literally started a few minutes ago.
Yep. The reason is that I'm rewriting my timer handling in my TCP/IP stack right now, so MIM is not that stable. :-)
Ah shame, I just added a function to my Pyffle conferencing software that uses the webpage to look up HECnet nodes..
Any idea when it'll be stable again? :)
Hopefully within an hour or so.
Actually it seems to work now. Shame it doesn't render that well in Lynx (not a criticism, nothing renders well in Lynx) so might write a bit of Python to pull the nodedb down and query it, display the results in a bit more user-friendly text format.
Sampsa
