On 14 May 2014, at 15:54, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
Well I've gone off into the deep end and last night (or early this
morning) I downloaded a batch of items from the people behind the
Charon-VAX thing.
Right now I'm downloading an AXP image from Ian's site and I'll know
in a few more minutes if it works. However what are the steps for
securing a license from HP to run things?
I'm more interested in trying to get VAX-VMS running rather then the
Alpha one. So would one of you know where the Hobbyist VMS project is
roosting these days? I'll also need to contact them for a license.
Easiest way is 2 stages:
1. Register with DECUServe/Encompass here:
http://decuserve.org/
(I always do it by telnet because it makes me feel warm and fuzzy ;))
2. Wait 7-10 days for it to get through the works then put in a request via: http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
That will get you an official Hobbyist PAK set emailed to you form John Egolf, the PAK is only valid for 13 months so be sure to keep your DECuserve subscription up to date and re-apply in time next year. A system with expired PAKs can be a bit of a pain to get up and running again, although emulators are MUCH easier (as you can copy/paste into them unlike real VAXs).
--
Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
Hello!
Well I've gone off into the deep end and last night (or early this
morning) I downloaded a batch of items from the people behind the
Charon-VAX thing.
Right now I'm downloading an AXP image from Ian's site and I'll know
in a few more minutes if it works. However what are the steps for
securing a license from HP to run things?
I'm more interested in trying to get VAX-VMS running rather then the
Alpha one. So would one of you know where the Hobbyist VMS project is
roosting these days? I'll also need to contact them for a license.
Sampsa if this works and I do manage to bring it up is your offer to
provide PPTP links between your arrangement and here still good? I'll
then be ready obtain an area number. Does someone maintain a
reasonably up to date list of areas indicating which ones are occupied
and which ones are not?
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 14 May 2014, at 15:24, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Jordi,
Thanks for the report. Not sure what went wrong. I quickly ripped them and put them up but didn't test them. I'll put them in some real DEC hardware today and see what's going on.
FWIW My set (also from Scott Martin) work just fine as File-11 on my VAXstation 4000/60.
--
Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
On 14 May 2014, at 15:24, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Jordi,
Thanks for the report. Not sure what went wrong. I quickly ripped them and put them up but didn't test them. I'll put them in some real DEC hardware today and see what's going on.
This isn't something wonky like you have to dd them at bs=512 or something is it?
--
Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
Jordi,
Thanks for the report. Not sure what went wrong. I quickly ripped them and put them up but didn't test them. I'll put them in some real DEC hardware today and see what's going on.
Ian
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On May 14, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 13/05/2014, a les 21.35, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> va escriure:
Hello All,
Thanks to the kind donation of CDs from Scott Martin from the Vintage Computing linkedin group, I now have the OpenVMS VAX software product library collection from December 2007 available on my site. Feel free to grab a copy.
http://www.vaxhaven.com/CD_Image_Archive
For some reason, VMS running under simh does not like your images:
btes08>> att rq3 /Users/jguillaumes/work/AG-RSAVY-BE.iso
btes08>> show rq3
RQ3 762MB, attached to /Users/jguillaumes/work/AG-RSAVY-BE.iso, read only
RRD40, autosize, SIMH format
btes08>> c
[BTES08]$
[BTES08]$
[BTES08]$ mount/over=ident dua3:
%MOUNT-F-NOHOMEBLK, Files-11 home block not found on volume
-MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = '.... ', owner = ' VAXBINDE', format = 'C075SYSTEM '
[BTES08]$ mount/over=ident dua3:/media=cdrom
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 14-MAY-2014 15:54:32.41 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on BTES08
no CD-ROM volume descriptor found
%MOUNT-I-OPRQST, no CD-ROM volume descriptor found
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 14-MAY-2014 15:54:32.41 %%%%%%%%%%%
Request 1, from user SYSTEM on BTES08
Please mount device _BTES08$DUA3:
MacOSX is not able to mount them either, so I guess they are not in ISO format. VMS says they are not Files-11 either.
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
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I guess you meant iso-propanol, right?
Just in case someone runs to the chemist for a pint of the aldehyde, which is a lot more toxic than the alcohol.
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Verzonden: woensdag 14 mei 2014 03:19
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] TK50 issues
>Cory Smelosky wrote:
Evening all,
Got a nice haul of equipment today...aside from the TK50 issues and the smoking VT340 everything seems to be okay!
However:
CARTRIDGE PRESENT
HEAD AT TRACK ZERO
POSITIONED AT BOT
TRK NUMBER 00
LOGICAL TRACK NUMBER = 0.
PHYSICAL BLK# 0000
PHYSICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 0.
LOGICAL BLK# 00
LOGICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 0.
TAPE POSITION 000EFB
TAPE POSITION = 3835.
DRIVE STATE 035E
RD/WRT STATE 1937
OPERATION FLGS 0201
CNTRLR STATUS 0C
DRIVE ERROR
DRIVE ERR CODE 93
AMPLITUDE ON HEAD 2 TOO LOW
and an error about it being unable to find calibration track 2 on the second drive lead me to believe the drives may be faulty. The leader isn't broken and I've reattached it to the arm on the one where it had come off.
How would I do about cleaning one? Are the drives bad and a cleaning wouldn't help?
(Yes, I tried multiple cartridges)
Over 95% of the time I had a "bad" TK50, it was because
the heads required cleaning. After sitting around for more
than a decade, the TK50 tapes no longer leave the heads
very clean. Cleaning the TK50 head is quite easy once the
drive has been removed from a drive bay and the 3 bolts
holding down the cover have been removed. A smaller
screw driver can then remove the bolt holding the piece in
front of the head. I use Q-tips and isoproponal. The whole
procedure takes less than 5 minutes. No alignment is required
if just the piece in front of the head is removed since it blots
back into exactly the same position. Probably the rollers
should also be cleaned as well. I usually had to clean the
heads every time the equivalent of a complete TK50 tape
was used.
If the TK50 drive is going to be used frequently, it is best
to leave the drive out of the drive bay. with the cover off.
However, be sure to keep the same power source from
the backplane. While a hard disk drive seems to accept
a PC power supply as the power source, the TK50 seems
to require the same power source as the backplane which
is used to power the CPU and other boards. If necessary,
use an extension for the 5v / 12v plug that the TK50 requires.
The normal 20 pin (??) cable for signals to the controller
board is usually long enough to stretch to some other
convenient location outside the drive bay.
Jerome Fine
El 13/05/2014, a les 21.35, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> va escriure:
Hello All,
Thanks to the kind donation of CDs from Scott Martin from the Vintage Computing linkedin group, I now have the OpenVMS VAX software product library collection from December 2007 available on my site. Feel free to grab a copy.
http://www.vaxhaven.com/CD_Image_Archive
For some reason, VMS running under simh does not like your images:
btes08>> att rq3 /Users/jguillaumes/work/AG-RSAVY-BE.iso
btes08>> show rq3
RQ3 762MB, attached to /Users/jguillaumes/work/AG-RSAVY-BE.iso, read only
RRD40, autosize, SIMH format
btes08>> c
[BTES08]$
[BTES08]$
[BTES08]$ mount/over=ident dua3:
%MOUNT-F-NOHOMEBLK, Files-11 home block not found on volume
-MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = '.... ', owner = ' VAXBINDE', format = 'C075SYSTEM '
[BTES08]$ mount/over=ident dua3:/media=cdrom
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 14-MAY-2014 15:54:32.41 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on BTES08
no CD-ROM volume descriptor found
%MOUNT-I-OPRQST, no CD-ROM volume descriptor found
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 14-MAY-2014 15:54:32.41 %%%%%%%%%%%
Request 1, from user SYSTEM on BTES08
Please mount device _BTES08$DUA3:
MacOSX is not able to mount them either, so I guess they are not in ISO format. VMS says they are not Files-11 either.
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
By the way, I am looking for CD_CONTENTS.DAT from the following SPL
releases:
1989 September, November
1990 March, July, September
1991 March, May, November
1992 May
1993 September, November
1994 March, September
1995 June, September
1996 December
I can be wrong in some release month names however, they were deviating from
year to year (November-December, May-June).
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf
Of Ian McLaughlin
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:35 PM
To: DEC discussion list.; hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] OpenVMS VAX Software Products Library 2007 now available
Hello All,
Thanks to the kind donation of CDs from Scott Martin from the Vintage
Computing linkedin group, I now have the OpenVMS VAX software product
library
collection from December 2007 available on my site. Feel free to grab a
copy.
http://www.vaxhaven.com/CD_Image_Archive
If anyone has images or disks from other dates, I'd be more than happy to
rip
them and put them up.
Ian=
>Cory Smelosky wrote:
Evening all,
Got a nice haul of equipment today...aside from the TK50 issues and the smoking VT340 everything seems to be okay!
However:
CARTRIDGE PRESENT
HEAD AT TRACK ZERO
POSITIONED AT BOT
TRK NUMBER 00
LOGICAL TRACK NUMBER = 0.
PHYSICAL BLK# 0000
PHYSICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 0.
LOGICAL BLK# 00
LOGICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 0.
TAPE POSITION 000EFB
TAPE POSITION = 3835.
DRIVE STATE 035E
RD/WRT STATE 1937
OPERATION FLGS 0201
CNTRLR STATUS 0C
DRIVE ERROR
DRIVE ERR CODE 93
AMPLITUDE ON HEAD 2 TOO LOW
and an error about it being unable to find calibration track 2 on the second drive lead me to believe the drives may be faulty. The leader isn't broken and I've reattached it to the arm on the one where it had come off.
How would I do about cleaning one? Are the drives bad and a cleaning wouldn't help?
(Yes, I tried multiple cartridges)
Over 95% of the time I had a "bad" TK50, it was because
the heads required cleaning. After sitting around for more
than a decade, the TK50 tapes no longer leave the heads
very clean. Cleaning the TK50 head is quite easy once the
drive has been removed from a drive bay and the 3 bolts
holding down the cover have been removed. A smaller
screw driver can then remove the bolt holding the piece in
front of the head. I use Q-tips and isoproponal. The whole
procedure takes less than 5 minutes. No alignment is required
if just the piece in front of the head is removed since it blots
back into exactly the same position. Probably the rollers
should also be cleaned as well. I usually had to clean the
heads every time the equivalent of a complete TK50 tape
was used.
If the TK50 drive is going to be used frequently, it is best
to leave the drive out of the drive bay. with the cover off.
However, be sure to keep the same power source from
the backplane. While a hard disk drive seems to accept
a PC power supply as the power source, the TK50 seems
to require the same power source as the backplane which
is used to power the CPU and other boards. If necessary,
use an extension for the 5v / 12v plug that the TK50 requires.
The normal 20 pin (??) cable for signals to the controller
board is usually long enough to stretch to some other
convenient location outside the drive bay.
Jerome Fine
El 13/05/2014, a les 21.35, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> va escriure:
Hello All,
Thanks to the kind donation of CDs from Scott Martin from the Vintage Computing linkedin group, I now have the OpenVMS VAX software product library collection from December 2007 available on my site. Feel free to grab a copy.
http://www.vaxhaven.com/CD_Image_Archive
Nice and thanks!
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES