Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 06/10/2014 06:57 PM, Lee Gleason wrote:
and external drive options; however, I don;t use them because those
Maxtor
XT2190s (RD54s) are so damn loud. I have V6.something on both which I
setup
I recently rescued 3 2000s from recycling, and couldn't stand how loud
the RD54s were, especially when all 3 were running. I did some research
and finally got them all running the Mueller patches to support SCSI
drives. Lots quieter now - I can have them all on and still be able to
listen to music.
Heh...don't knock those RD54s. Several years ago, when I was still
starving in the "zero-work zone" (SW Florida) someone *gave* me about
twenty of those drives. Selling all but three of them on eBay paid my
mortgage for almost a year!
Had I known then what they'd be worth today, I'd have stockpiled thousands.
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Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Has the startup actually completed? The STARTUP process must complete and
exit before the DECWindows server can take control.
It gave the normal disk usage and time prompt, so I believe so.
...How the hell do I send VMSBACKUP files via ftp? ASCII and BINARY both
corrupt it.
what was the blocking on the backup? FTP it binary and then use SET FILE
/ATTRIBUTES to correct the VMS file attributes. OR... $ ZIP "-V" on VMS
and send the ZIP file. The "-V" (UPPERCASE V so it must be quoted) will
preserve the VMS file attributes.
8192. Looks like SET FILE/ATTRIB=LRL:8192 EWS012.A allowed BACKUP/LIST
EWS012.A/SAVE to succeed.
VMS DUMP the first block. You should see the BACKUP command in the ASCII
translation. If there's a /BLOCK listed, use that value; otherwise, there
are defaults as you have discovered.
Don't feel bad, I've been dealing with this for 20 years when trying to get
VMS crash dump files from customers sent to me in tact via the internet. ;)
I'm impressed I figured out that LRL was the value I wanted. ;)
Luck. ;)
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I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On 06/10/2014 06:57 PM, Lee Gleason wrote:
and external drive options; however, I don;t use them because those
Maxtor
XT2190s (RD54s) are so damn loud. I have V6.something on both which I
setup
I recently rescued 3 2000s from recycling, and couldn't stand how loud
the RD54s were, especially when all 3 were running. I did some research
and finally got them all running the Mueller patches to support SCSI
drives. Lots quieter now - I can have them all on and still be able to
listen to music.
Heh...don't knock those RD54s. Several years ago, when I was still
starving in the "zero-work zone" (SW Florida) someone *gave* me about
twenty of those drives. Selling all but three of them on eBay paid my
mortgage for almost a year!
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Has the startup actually completed? The STARTUP process must complete and
exit before the DECWindows server can take control.
It gave the normal disk usage and time prompt, so I believe so.
...How the hell do I send VMSBACKUP files via ftp? ASCII and BINARY both
corrupt it.
what was the blocking on the backup? FTP it binary and then use SET FILE
/ATTRIBUTES to correct the VMS file attributes. OR... $ ZIP "-V" on VMS
and send the ZIP file. The "-V" (UPPERCASE V so it must be quoted) will
preserve the VMS file attributes.
8192. Looks like SET FILE/ATTRIB=LRL:8192 EWS012.A allowed BACKUP/LIST EWS012.A/SAVE to succeed.
Don't feel bad, I've been dealing with this for 20 years when trying to get
VMS crash dump files from customers sent to me in tact via the internet. ;)
I'm impressed I figured out that LRL was the value I wanted. ;)
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Has the startup actually completed? The STARTUP process must complete and
exit before the DECWindows server can take control.
It gave the normal disk usage and time prompt, so I believe so.
...How the hell do I send VMSBACKUP files via ftp? ASCII and BINARY both
corrupt it.
what was the blocking on the backup? FTP it binary and then use SET FILE
/ATTRIBUTES to correct the VMS file attributes. OR... $ ZIP "-V" on VMS
and send the ZIP file. The "-V" (UPPERCASE V so it must be quoted) will
preserve the VMS file attributes.
Don't feel bad, I've been dealing with this for 20 years when trying to get
VMS crash dump files from customers sent to me in tact via the internet. ;)
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Has the startup actually completed? The STARTUP process must complete and
exit before the DECWindows server can take control.
It gave the normal disk usage and time prompt, so I believe so.
...How the hell do I send VMSBACKUP files via ftp? ASCII and BINARY both corrupt it.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
I'd do the same...except the cable doesn't provide an internal SCSI
port...does it? I don't have any cables spare that would work I don't
think.
You'd need the expansion plate, I believe, because it provided the interface
to the external disk and the rudimentary SCSI for the TK50Z.
Ahh.
Now...I'm confused as hell here.
I have SYS$STARTUP:DECW$STARTUP running...and I have a mouse cursor on the
VR290...but I'm not getting a DECwindows LOGINOUT prompt. Is it memory
related?
Has the startup actually completed? The STARTUP process must complete and
exit before the DECWindows server can take control.
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I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
I'd do the same...except the cable doesn't provide an internal SCSI
port...does it? I don't have any cables spare that would work I don't
think.
You'd need the expansion plate, I believe, because it provided the interface
to the external disk and the rudimentary SCSI for the TK50Z.
Ahh.
Now...I'm confused as hell here.
I have SYS$STARTUP:DECW$STARTUP running...and I have a mouse cursor on the VR290...but I'm not getting a DECwindows LOGINOUT prompt. Is it memory related?
Guess I'll go back to trying EWS. ;)
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Lee Gleason wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
and external drive options; however, I don;t use them because those Maxtor
XT2190s (RD54s) are so damn loud. I have V6.something on both which I
setup
I recently rescued 3 2000s from recycling, and couldn't stand how loud the
RD54s were, especially when all 3 were running. I did some research and
finally got them all running the Mueller patches to support SCSI drives. Lots
quieter now - I can have them all on and still be able to listen to music.
I'd do the same...except the cable doesn't provide an internal SCSI
port...does it? I don't have any cables spare that would work I don't
think.
You'd need the expansion plate, I believe, because it provided the interface
to the external disk and the rudimentary SCSI for the TK50Z.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Lee Gleason wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
and external drive options; however, I don;t use them because those Maxtor
XT2190s (RD54s) are so damn loud. I have V6.something on both which I setup
I recently rescued 3 2000s from recycling, and couldn't stand how loud the RD54s were, especially when all 3 were running. I did some research and finally got them all running the Mueller patches to support SCSI drives. Lots quieter now - I can have them all on and still be able to listen to music.
I'd do the same...except the cable doesn't provide an internal SCSI port...does it? I don't have any cables spare that would work I don't think.
Now: back to figuring out why DECwindows won't start in 6M RAM. ;);)
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Control-G Consultants
lee.gleason at comcast.net
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