Johnny Billquist wrote:
Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi guys,
I have a couple of 4000/90s and a 4000/60 at least one of which I'd like to get onto HECnet in the near future. Could someone let me know if the router software will compile and run ok under netbsd, as I have a low-power box running that 24/7 at the moment, so this would be the ideal option for me.
Since NetBSD actually is what I'm (still) running myself, the answer is very much yes. :-)
Johnny
Well,
As the box is on 24/7 and I'm currently running off a 56k modem I thought I'd give it a whirl - compiles fine, not sure what to do next (I copied bridge.conf.orig and edited the [bridge] section to contain 'local ex0' - ex0 being the ethernet device - am I at least along the right lines?) I get an 'Error opening device' if I try $ bridge 50000 as a normal user, and possibly (in the unix philosophy) a nicer reply (ie nothing) if I run it as root with the same port number).
All good things to try from a caravan with the wind howling. I can turn my VAX or remotely, so we could have had this cracked by this evening, except that both the glass and the bottle are almost empty...
Mark.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:48:34PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
DDCMP. I suppose it should work, if I hook it to the E-11 based
system and have that be a router.
I've done that in the past over internet, if you are interested.
I remember that. :)
That was.... uhm, a *lot* of years ago. That's when you and I first
started really getting HECnet together.
Ah, memories. :)
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
Minor correction: I log into TINA on a semi-regular basis.
It isn't very well maintained (read, ghost machine), but it's very much
reachable by telnet and always up when I try.
-Mark
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Marc Chametzky wrote:
The recent downtime thread has sparked much discussion about a variety
of DEC (and perhaps some Compaq) hardware, but who among us is living
in HECnet lives in software?
Let's see now. Among the systems I manage...
1.1 (MAGICA) Unreachable
A real 11/70. Only powered on intermittently, but standing ready by the
turn of the key. Used to be running 24/7 until a few years ago. Services
were moved over to MIM.
1.2 (ERNIE) Unreachable 0 4
A real 11/84. Running 2.11BSD as I write this, but running RSX when on
HECnet.
1.3 (FNATTE) Unreachable
A real 11/73. Running RSX. I doubt I'll resurrect that one.
1.4 (GOBLIN) Unreachable
A uVAX 3500. But I think it has been lost to history.
1.5 (ZEKE) Unreachable
This was a VAX 6440. Decomissioned.
1.6 (GNOME) Unreachable
A real VAXstation 3100/76
1.7 (BJARNE) Unreachable
AlphaStation 255. Currently not in running order, but nothing seriously
wrong with it.
1.8 (KRILLE) Unreachable
A real VAX-8650. Almost ready by just turning a key as well. Same place
as MAGICA. We have a budget "problem" as well as a cooling problem,
which is why the machine isn't doing much. To run it, I might need to
reconnect a console, as well as separately turning on the cabinets with
disks in them, and the HSC-90.
1.9 (TEMPO) Unreachable
Linux
1.10 (SIGGE) Unreachable
A real VAX-7720. We should upgrade it to an 7810 sooner or later. We
should have the cpu card somewhere... Running in short order, much like
KRILLE.
1.11 (ROCKY) Unreachable
AlphaServer 7000. Decomissioned.
1.12 (PONY) Unreachable
AS2100. Decomissioned.
1.13 (MIM)
Emulated (E11). Pretends it's an 11/74. Up 24/7.
1.14 (TINA) Unreachable
Emulated. KLH-10. (Really Bjorn Victors responsibility.)
1.15 (PONDUS) Reachable 0 4 UNA-0 1.15 (PONDUS)
A real 11/93. Normally running 24/7.
1.16 (GNAT) Unreachable 0 4
VAXstation 4000/90. Sometimes on, sometimes off.
1.17 (JOSSE) Unreachable 0 30
PC running Windows XP.
1.18 (PAMINA) Unreachable
Emulated. KLH-10. Also Bjorn Victor.
1.19 (BEA) Unreachable 0 30
A real PRO-380 running P/OS.
1.20 (KNASE) Unreachable
Another real 11/70. We have some problem with that machine right now. I
think it's a power supply, but we haven't had time to work on it for a
while.
We have a third 11/70 as well, which we haven't really looked through
yet. Might do something with that one eventually.
Well, that's what I know. :-)
Johnny
Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi guys,
I have a couple of 4000/90s and a 4000/60 at least one of which I'd like to get onto HECnet in the near future. Could someone let me know if the router software will compile and run ok under netbsd, as I have a low-power box running that 24/7 at the moment, so this would be the ideal option for me.
Since NetBSD actually is what I'm (still) running myself, the answer is very much yes. :-)
Johnny
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pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Well it compiled and runs fine on OS X which is quite BSD-y, so it probably works under netbsd.
This might be pointless speculation however :)
Sampsa
On 20 Aug 2009, at 22:03, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi guys,
I have a couple of 4000/90s and a 4000/60 at least one of which I'd like to get onto HECnet in the near future. Could someone let me know if the router software will compile and run ok under netbsd, as I have a low-power box running that 24/7 at the moment, so this would be the ideal option for me.
Regards, Mark.
Hi guys,
I have a couple of 4000/90s and a 4000/60 at least one of which I'd like to get onto HECnet in the near future. Could someone let me know if the router software will compile and run ok under netbsd, as I have a low-power box running that 24/7 at the moment, so this would be the ideal option for me.
Regards, Mark.
Paul Koning wrote:
Excerpt of message (sent 20 August 2009) by Marc Chametzky:
The recent downtime thread has sparked much discussion about a variety of DEC (and perhaps some Compaq) hardware, but who among us is living in HECnet lives in software?
Right now I'm not on HECnet -- someday not too long from now, I hope.
That will be a DECnet/E system emulated in E-11. I do have a Pro or
two, but I'm a bit hesitant to hook that up -- it would have to be by
DDCMP. I suppose it should work, if I hook it to the E-11 based
system and have that be a router.
paul
I'm also currently not on HECnet, but it's a future goal. I have a small herd of Alphas and Integrity systems but no actual VAXen nor PDP's. I hope to create some using VMware's ESXi virtual platform on some HP DL380 G3's that I have. I"m looking into Simh fo rthe VAX and PDP-11's and KLH-10 for a PDP-10
John H. Reinhardt
Paul Koning wrote:
Excerpt of message (sent 20 August 2009) by Marc Chametzky:
The recent downtime thread has sparked much discussion about a variety of DEC (and perhaps some Compaq) hardware, but who among us is living in HECnet lives in software?
Right now I'm not on HECnet -- someday not too long from now, I hope.
That will be a DECnet/E system emulated in E-11. I do have a Pro or
two, but I'm a bit hesitant to hook that up -- it would have to be by
DDCMP. I suppose it should work, if I hook it to the E-11 based
system and have that be a router.
I've done that in the past over internet, if you are interested.
My PRO (running P/OS) is also running that way, since I don't have a DECNA. :-(
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Excerpt of message (sent 20 August 2009) by Marc Chametzky:
The recent downtime thread has sparked much discussion about a variety
of DEC (and perhaps some Compaq) hardware, but who among us is living in
HECnet lives in software?
Right now I'm not on HECnet -- someday not too long from now, I hope.
That will be a DECnet/E system emulated in E-11. I do have a Pro or
two, but I'm a bit hesitant to hook that up -- it would have to be by
DDCMP. I suppose it should work, if I hook it to the E-11 based
system and have that be a router.
paul
Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Zane, got any RSTS/E system up now? Might be interesting to hear if
it could talk with RSX...
I *STILL* need to find the cables to get my systems up and running. I have
a 20Mbit *Commercial* FIOS line basically going to waste, since until my
servers are up and running a residential line would work just fine
for me.
My RSTS/E system is actually in worse shape than PDXVAX and MONK. At
least
they're in the racks, though they aren't cabled up. The BA123
chassis for
CAMECA is sitting under the workbench in the garage, while I think
most of
the boards are over in the corner where it will live. Realistically
I don't
see me being online for at least another couple months, as I have a
lot of
work to do on the house before the weather gets to bad.
I really miss having my VMS systems online 24x7, or being able to flip a
switch and have a PDP-11 powered up.
Maybe it's just me who's crazy enough to keep several PDP-11 (and
PDP-8) systems up and running at home... :-)
But anyway. DECnet (well, phone, DAP and CTERM) between RSX and Linux
isn't really working, even though it should be pretty similar to
talking with VMS systems (from Linux point of view).
That's bizarre, because I regularly used to use dnlogin on Linux to
connect to MIM (and I also tried it back again) when I was setting up
the link.
I did also do a few file transfers, though they were very basic, so
probably didn't stretch anything very much :)
Hmm. Have you done something then?
Becuase when I tried dlogin, it worked pretty ok, except some packet(s)
broke with the protocol implementation in RSX. And at that point, I also
found that there was some kind of bug in the RSX implementation, because
when I got the protocol errors (usually resulting in a lost connection),
I could also observe that DECnet in RSX was loosing buffers somewhere
that weren't reclaimed. After a while of this, the only thing to do was
to reboot RSX (yes, that is a bug in RSX, but there is/was also a bug in
LAT from Linux, which in turn triggered the bug in RSX.)
As for file trasnfers, I basically never managed to get it to work in
any direction, initiated from any direction.
Admittedly, this was many years ago now (I'd say atleast around five
years ago). Perhaps you have fixed a few things since then?
Johnny
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Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
