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by jeep＠scshome.net

If you wish I could login to you alpha and take a look around. I can either set host or come in via LAT. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 21:37 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: RE: [HECnet] Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver? On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 21:18 -0500, Steve Davidson wrote: Did you by chance enable broadcasts to your system console on the Alpha so that you could monitor the actual requests that the Alpha will/should (hopefully) see? This might give a clue to what is missing/wrong... (resent because I think I'm subscribed to the mailing list with a couple variants of misernet.net ....) Hi Steve, Yes I did. In fact I see the "load request" start and succeed when it grabs the ISL_SVAX_073 file - but other than that, there are no other broadcasts while logged in as SYSTEM with reply/enable set. I have found a site with jumper settings for this NEC drive, but I don't see a reference to sector size. I think I'm going to modify the "factory reserved" jumpers one at a time, thinking perhaps one of those is it. Fred

16 years, 4 months

Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver?

by jeep＠scshome.net

Fred, How many disk drives do you have in the 90A? I may have another idea - a variation on a theme as it were... -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 21:37 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: RE: [HECnet] Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver? On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 21:18 -0500, Steve Davidson wrote: Did you by chance enable broadcasts to your system console on the Alpha so that you could monitor the actual requests that the Alpha will/should (hopefully) see? This might give a clue to what is missing/wrong... (resent because I think I'm subscribed to the mailing list with a couple variants of misernet.net ....) Hi Steve, Yes I did. In fact I see the "load request" start and succeed when it grabs the ISL_SVAX_073 file - but other than that, there are no other broadcasts while logged in as SYSTEM with reply/enable set. I have found a site with jumper settings for this NEC drive, but I don't see a reference to sector size. I think I'm going to modify the "factory reserved" jumpers one at a time, thinking perhaps one of those is it. Fred

16 years, 4 months

Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver?

by jeep＠scshome.net

Fred, Which model are you using? I may have one here to check. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 21:37 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: RE: [HECnet] Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver? On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 21:18 -0500, Steve Davidson wrote: Did you by chance enable broadcasts to your system console on the Alpha so that you could monitor the actual requests that the Alpha will/should (hopefully) see? This might give a clue to what is missing/wrong... (resent because I think I'm subscribed to the mailing list with a couple variants of misernet.net ....) Hi Steve, Yes I did. In fact I see the "load request" start and succeed when it grabs the ISL_SVAX_073 file - but other than that, there are no other broadcasts while logged in as SYSTEM with reply/enable set. I have found a site with jumper settings for this NEC drive, but I don't see a reference to sector size. I think I'm going to modify the "factory reserved" jumpers one at a time, thinking perhaps one of those is it. Fred

16 years, 4 months

Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver?

by fcoffey＠thrifty.misernet.net

On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 21:18 -0500, Steve Davidson wrote: Did you by chance enable broadcasts to your system console on the Alpha so that you could monitor the actual requests that the Alpha will/should (hopefully) see? This might give a clue to what is missing/wrong... (resent because I think I'm subscribed to the mailing list with a couple variants of misernet.net ....) Hi Steve, Yes I did. In fact I see the "load request" start and succeed when it grabs the ISL_SVAX_073 file - but other than that, there are no other broadcasts while logged in as SYSTEM with reply/enable set. I have found a site with jumper settings for this NEC drive, but I don't see a reference to sector size. I think I'm going to modify the "factory reserved" jumpers one at a time, thinking perhaps one of those is it. Fred

16 years, 4 months

Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver?

by jeep＠scshome.net

I have two of the 6-stack units (624x). They work GREAT! Some of the VAXen see all 6 drives, some do not. The VAXcluster boot member for the STARS2 cluster has one on it right now (serverd to the whole cluster). -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Zane H. Healy Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 20:28 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver? At 9:11 PM -0500 11/22/09, Steve Davidson wrote: Oh, the NEC Multispin 4x may just work. I use these. You will have to set one of the dip switches that changes it from 2048 bytes to 512 bytes. A search on the web should be able to give you the correct switch. I love the old NEC Mulitspin's, I have an 8x caddy drive in my PDP-11. They're the only non-DEC drives I've been able to find that works with some of my older DEC gear. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

16 years, 4 months

Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver?

by jeep＠scshome.net

Just remembered... Did you by chance enable broadcasts to your system console on the Alpha so that you could monitor the actual requests that the Alpha will/should (hopefully) see? This might give a clue to what is missing/wrong... -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 21:04 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: [HECnet] Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver? Good evening everyone: This weekend I have been trying to make my VAXStation 4000-90A come to life. It won't boot off the CD (an NEC Multispin 4X, perhaps it doesn't speak 512/2048?) so I took the next route of trying to make it boot of my Alpha's (MISER) host base Infoserver. I copied the ISL_SVAX_073.SYS file off of my 7.3 distribution from Montagar (it was in [sys0.sysexe]) to mom$load and did all the NCP statements to make MISER aware of the new soon-to-be-node, FRUGAL. The VAX boots to this file fine.( "b /r5:100 eza0" ) If I make it search for Infoserver services, it finds the 7.3 distribution service that I set up using LDDRIVER on the Alpha. However, when I try to select it (and hopefully make it "boot" from it) it just sits there for a long time, eventually saying: %ISL-F-BADOPEN, unable to locate SYSBOOT Running wireshark doesn't reveal much - I see the "DEC LAST" protocol running on the wire, but that's about it. At this point it *has* to be something simple. Would anyone have anything obvious I should be checking? I have a feeling I'm *this* close ... :) Cheers, Fred ---- Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.

16 years, 4 months

Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver?

by jeep＠scshome.net

Fred, I'm not sure what's going on here but... I may still be able to help you. You could try booting into my VAXcluster (as a satellite) and do the installation from that if you wish. If you are interested, let me know offline. If this fails then you could try booting off my "real" InfoServer just for grins :-) Oh, the NEC Multispin 4x may just work. I use these. You will have to set one of the dip switches that changes it from 2048 bytes to 512 bytes. A search on the web should be able to give you the correct switch. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 21:04 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: [HECnet] Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver? Good evening everyone: This weekend I have been trying to make my VAXStation 4000-90A come to life. It won't boot off the CD (an NEC Multispin 4X, perhaps it doesn't speak 512/2048?) so I took the next route of trying to make it boot of my Alpha's (MISER) host base Infoserver. I copied the ISL_SVAX_073.SYS file off of my 7.3 distribution from Montagar (it was in [sys0.sysexe]) to mom$load and did all the NCP statements to make MISER aware of the new soon-to-be-node, FRUGAL. The VAX boots to this file fine.( "b /r5:100 eza0" ) If I make it search for Infoserver services, it finds the 7.3 distribution service that I set up using LDDRIVER on the Alpha. However, when I try to select it (and hopefully make it "boot" from it) it just sits there for a long time, eventually saying: %ISL-F-BADOPEN, unable to locate SYSBOOT Running wireshark doesn't reveal much - I see the "DEC LAST" protocol running on the wire, but that's about it. At this point it *has* to be something simple. Would anyone have anything obvious I should be checking? I have a feeling I'm *this* close ... :) Cheers, Fred ---- Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.

16 years, 4 months

Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver?

by fcoffey＠thrifty.misernet.net

Good evening everyone: This weekend I have been trying to make my VAXStation 4000-90A come to life. It won't boot off the CD (an NEC Multispin 4X, perhaps it doesn't speak 512/2048?) so I took the next route of trying to make it boot of my Alpha's (MISER) host base Infoserver. I copied the ISL_SVAX_073.SYS file off of my 7.3 distribution from Montagar (it was in [sys0.sysexe]) to mom$load and did all the NCP statements to make MISER aware of the new soon-to-be-node, FRUGAL. The VAX boots to this file fine.( "b /r5:100 eza0" ) If I make it search for Infoserver services, it finds the 7.3 distribution service that I set up using LDDRIVER on the Alpha. However, when I try to select it (and hopefully make it "boot" from it) it just sits there for a long time, eventually saying: %ISL-F-BADOPEN, unable to locate SYSBOOT Running wireshark doesn't reveal much - I see the "DEC LAST" protocol running on the wire, but that's about it. At this point it *has* to be something simple. Would anyone have anything obvious I should be checking? I have a feeling I'm *this* close ... :) Cheers, Fred ---- Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.

16 years, 4 months

Boot VAX from Alpha host Infoserver?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 9:11 PM -0500 11/22/09, Steve Davidson wrote: Oh, the NEC Multispin 4x may just work. I use these. You will have to set one of the dip switches that changes it from 2048 bytes to 512 bytes. A search on the web should be able to give you the correct switch. I love the old NEC Mulitspin's, I have an 8x caddy drive in my PDP-11. They're the only non-DEC drives I've been able to find that works with some of my older DEC gear. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

16 years, 4 months

DEC Legacy Event, April 17th-18th 2010, Windermere, UK

by ian＠platinum.net

Thanks for the news. However, the URL appears to be wrong. It's: http://declegacy.org.uk Ian. On 2009-11-12, at 2:33 PM, Mark Wickens wrote: Hope you guys don't mind me posting my message to the list - hopefully it will be interesting to some. DEC Legacy Event, April 17th-18th 2010, Windermere, UK ------------------------------------------------------ The event venue has now been booked and I would therefore ask you to make a note of the event date, the weekend of April 17th & 18th 2010, in your diary. The event will take place at the Marchesi Centre, Windermere, UK from 09:00 to 17:00 on each day. Website URL: http://dec-legacy.org.uk The website will be updated with information about speakers and equipment that will be making an appearance. You can now purchase a ticket online using paypal or by cheque. Any proceeds after expenses will go to the National Museum of Computing at Bletchley Park. I highly recommend booking accommodation, if required, in good time as it does generally get booked up quickly in such a popular tourist destination. The Cumbria Tourist Site is http://www.golakes.co.uk/ Don't forget that this is a great place for partners and children to enjoy! If you know of anyone else that might be interested please feel free to forward this email on to them or ask them to contact me directly so I may update them of progress. If you are interested in making a presentation on any aspect of DIGITAL's company, hardware, software or anything else you think would make an interesting talk please do contact me so we can discuss it further. If you do not want to receive further emails please let me know and I will remove you from this mailing list. Regards, Mark Wickens --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=6E5835E6CFDB11DEA…

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