On 04/07/2011 19:04, Peter Coghlan wrote:
I don't think that Compaq have any version of SSH for VMS om VAX, but I haven't checked if anything was shipped after 7.3.
There are other options, though. tcpware comes to mine.
I was thinking TCPWare too - seems to be the only reference I can find to SSH on 7.3.
Doesn't Multinet also provide SSH on VAX? It's definately there in the Alpha version.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Yes, SSH works on the VAX, although each login takes a little while to kick in.
There is a patch which needed to be applied if I remember correctly.
Mark.
I don't think that Compaq have any version of SSH for VMS om VAX, but I haven't checked if anything was shipped after 7.3.
There are other options, though. tcpware comes to mine.
I was thinking TCPWare too - seems to be the only reference I can find to SSH on 7.3.
Doesn't Multinet also provide SSH on VAX? It's definately there in the Alpha version.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
On 2011-07-04 19.30, Mark Benson wrote:
On 4 Jul 2011, at 08:43, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 04/07/11 00:27, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2011-07-04 01.22, Mark Benson wrote:
On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac.
Weelll... it sorta works.
Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be.
I should probably point out that PF1 (Gold) is mapped to F1 on your keyboard. So it is not located at the same physical place as on a DEC terminal...
Try F2, to get some help perhaps?
Johnny
For 'Do' you can always use Ctrl-B as a fallback - that's what I do when I don't have the right keyboard connected.
Great - those were the two things I was missing!
Is there anything I can do to fix the 'Backspace returns ti the start of the line' niggle. Normally either backspace or delete work okay for backspacing 1 character at a time but in xterm neither works as expected.
That's because your options in xterm is wrong. :-)
You can configure xterm to send either BS or DEL when you hit that key above CR. You want it to send DEL. It's only nitwits who think that backspace should delete. :-)
Johnny
On 4 Jul 2011, at 08:43, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 04/07/11 00:27, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2011-07-04 01.22, Mark Benson wrote:
On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac.
Weelll... it sorta works.
Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be.
I should probably point out that PF1 (Gold) is mapped to F1 on your keyboard. So it is not located at the same physical place as on a DEC terminal...
Try F2, to get some help perhaps?
Johnny
For 'Do' you can always use Ctrl-B as a fallback - that's what I do when I don't have the right keyboard connected.
Great - those were the two things I was missing!
Is there anything I can do to fix the 'Backspace returns ti the start of the line' niggle. Normally either backspace or delete work okay for backspacing 1 character at a time but in xterm neither works as expected.
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On 04/07/11 00:27, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2011-07-04 01.22, Mark Benson wrote:
On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac.
Weelll... it sorta works.
Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be.
I should probably point out that PF1 (Gold) is mapped to F1 on your keyboard. So it is not located at the same physical place as on a DEC terminal...
Try F2, to get some help perhaps?
Johnny
For 'Do' you can always use Ctrl-B as a fallback - that's what I do when I don't have the right keyboard connected.
Mark.
On 2011-07-04 01.22, Mark Benson wrote:
On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac.
Weelll... it sorta works.
Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be.
I should probably point out that PF1 (Gold) is mapped to F1 on your keyboard. So it is not located at the same physical place as on a DEC terminal...
Try F2, to get some help perhaps?
Johnny
On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac.
Weelll... it sorta works.
Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be.
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On 2011-07-03 19.55, Zane H. Healy wrote:
At 12:51 PM +0100 7/3/11, Mark Benson wrote:
I use a Mac OS X machine and the native Terminal.app with telnet or
SSH to access my OpenVMS boxen. Fior the most par tit works fine with
a VT100 terminal emulation to the VMS terminal. I have a problem with
EVE however. Mac's do something silly with the numeric keypad, it's
locked to numbers (rather than scroll) and the Numlock key doesn't do
anything sensible. As a result using the 'GOLD' key and pretty much
all the action keys in EVE becomes impossible. Anyone got any
suggestions, or am I just going to have to wing it or use my Linux box?
Use X-Windows and modify your keybindings so that they match what VMS
expects. It's a lot harder to do on the Mac, but it is possible.
No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac.
Johnny
On 2011-07-03 13.51, Mark Benson wrote:
Hi,
I use a Mac OS X machine and the native Terminal.app with telnet or SSH to access my OpenVMS boxen. Fior the most par tit works fine with a VT100 terminal emulation to the VMS terminal. I have a problem with EVE however. Mac's do something silly with the numeric keypad, it's locked to numbers (rather than scroll) and the Numlock key doesn't do anything sensible. As a result using the 'GOLD' key and pretty much all the action keys in EVE becomes impossible. Anyone got any suggestions, or am I just going to have to wing it or use my Linux box?
Skip iTerm, and run xterm instead. You'll get all keys working the way you would expect. (I do this all the time on my Macs.)
Johnny
At 12:51 PM +0100 7/3/11, Mark Benson wrote:
I use a Mac OS X machine and the native Terminal.app with telnet or SSH to access my OpenVMS boxen. Fior the most par tit works fine with a VT100 terminal emulation to the VMS terminal. I have a problem with EVE however. Mac's do something silly with the numeric keypad, it's locked to numbers (rather than scroll) and the Numlock key doesn't do anything sensible. As a result using the 'GOLD' key and pretty much all the action keys in EVE becomes impossible. Anyone got any suggestions, or am I just going to have to wing it or use my Linux box?
Use X-Windows and modify your keybindings so that they match what VMS expects. It's a lot harder to do on the Mac, but it is possible.
Zane
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