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by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

It looks like this didn't go out the first time, perhaps because I sent it from the wrong place... --------- Since people are offering to send old hardware to a good home, I figure I should do likewise. I have some bits of old DEC hardware, free to a good home. a. two M9202 Unibus jumpers (the ones with a foot or three of Unibus cable between the boards). b. DEFPA-DA -- PCI FDDI NIC, dual attachment style (two fiber optic ports). paul

13 years, 6 months

decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

That got it! Thanks Rob. Mark. On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Rob Jarratt wrote: Is it not that you have not set up your routing node as an *area* routing node. Try DEF EXEC TYPE AREA and restart DECnet. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl Sent: 20 September 2012 19:16 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Try $ show network/old That will tell you whether you've got a router or an endnode. Based on what you posted so far you have the former. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wickens Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:47:26 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at update.uu.se> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

13 years, 6 months

decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

Is it not that you have not set up your routing node as an *area* routing node. Try DEF EXEC TYPE AREA and restart DECnet. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl Sent: 20 September 2012 19:16 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Try $ show network/old That will tell you whether you've got a router or an endnode. Based on what you posted so far you have the former. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wickens Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:47:26 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at update.uu.se> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

13 years, 6 months

decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Try $ show network/old That will tell you whether you've got a router or an endnode. Based on what you posted so far you have the former. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wickens Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:47:26 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at update.uu.se> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

13 years, 6 months

decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

There is no such thing as area 0, so if something is reporting that, it would indicate something peculiar going on. paul On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, On a working machine here (also simh). I have exactly the same settings on every line of your show char below. I did notice that on the first email, it was saying that SIMVAX was in area 0. I don't know if that is relevant. Can you do a set host to 1.13 ? If you can set host, does a copy known nodes from 1.13 make any difference. I maybe wrong but I think that if that is the only machine in the area you will get unreachable as there is nothing else to reach. Dan On 20 September 2012 14:47, Mark Wickens wrote: Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

13 years, 6 months

decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by williams.dan＠gmail.com

Hi, On a working machine here (also simh). I have exactly the same settings on every line of your show char below. I did notice that on the first email, it was saying that SIMVAX was in area 0. I don't know if that is relevant. Can you do a set host to 1.13 ? If you can set host, does a copy known nodes from 1.13 make any difference. I maybe wrong but I think that if that is the only machine in the area you will get unreachable as there is nothing else to reach. Dan On 20 September 2012 14:47, Mark Wickens wrote: Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

13 years, 6 months

decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by HECNET＠beyondthepale.ie

Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Perhaps SIMVAX cannot see any DECnet routers and is only declaring area 4 to be reachable because it is in area 4 itself? Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Are you running SIMH and the bridge on the same machine? I only ask because I find when I run SIMH on VMS, the simulated machine cannot communicate directly with the host machine but can communicate with other machines on the network. This might not apply in the case of whatever host OS you are using to run SIMH on but I thought I'd mention it, just in case. If this is the problem, try bringing up SIMVAX and SLAVE at the same time. They should be able to see each other. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

13 years, 6 months

SIMH IDLE (again)

by HECNET＠beyondthepale.ie

You'll have to forgive me, I'm not entirely familiar with how networking on VMS works at this level. I'm not hugely familiar with it myself either. I only know enough to be dangerous :-) Can you setup something that uses pseudo devices but doesn't require promiscuous mode and see if that works? If so then I think we can definitely narrow it down to your promiscuous theory. If that's the case it just then becomes a question of is the issue with the pseudo devices themselves or the way PCAP is setting them up? As I understand it, when VMS initially detects an ethernet adapter, it creates a template device, such as EWA0 for example. As soon as something want's to use the adapter for something, a pseudodevice is cloned from the template device. For example, when DECnet is started, it creates a pseudodevice called EWA2. When the Multinet IP stack is started, it creates another two pseudodevices, EWA4 and EWA6, one to handle IP and one to handle ARP. Another pseudodevice handles cluster traffic. Each pseudodevice handles a particular ethernet protocol type. There is no problem with DECnet, IP and cluster traffic, for example sharing the same ethernet adapter. I don't know how PCAP-VMS interacts with this model. What it wants to do does not seem a good fit for the way the model was designed. I have no idea what I'm talking about, by the way. Just thinking out loud. :) I don't know much about this either. As I said, just enough to be dangerous :-) One day I may get around to researching it in more detail. I'd also like to find a way to use networking on SIMH running without requiring privileges on the host machine. Until I can do that, I am not likely to do very much with it anyway other than some limited testing on a sacrifical system. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

13 years, 6 months

SIMH IDLE (again)

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: You'll have to forgive me, I'm not entirely familiar with how networking on VMS works at this level. Can you setup something that uses pseudo devices but doesn't require promiscuous mode and see if that works? If so then I think we can definitely narrow it down to your promiscuous theory. If that's the case it just then becomes a question of is the issue with the pseudo devices themselves or the way PCAP is setting them up? I have no idea what I'm talking about, by the way. Just thinking out loud. :) -brian On Sep 19, 2012, at 19:25, Peter Coghlan <HECNET at beyondthepale.ie> wrote: I would also like to run multible instances of simh. This works fine for me as long as only one of them tries to do networking. Once I attempt to start networking on a second instance, the networking on the first instance stops working. This makes it difficult to run a vaxcluster on my alpha :-( How are the simh instances sharing the Ethernet interface? I don't really know. It appears a new EWA pseudodevice is created for each instance. However, PCAP-VMS seems to require the pseudodevice to be in promiscuous mode and I suspect that this is only allowed for one of them. It's not clear to me whether networking is even supposed to work for multiple instances. I should try installing an extra ethernet adapter and see if that allows it to work. Regards, Peter Coghlan. Hello! I agree. As it happens despite having a good interest in what is going on here, I happen to have some lacking of understanding regarding how VMS does networking. However I do almost completely understand how the modern UNIX descendants do networking. With the exception of Ultrix however. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

13 years, 6 months

decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

13 years, 6 months

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