Hi,
I've been seeing references to VAX Lisp installation savesets available on CONDIST media (March 1993) through google search but the links go nowhere and the messages are around 7 years old anyway. So...
Does anybody have the media I could 'borrow' and the product key, pretty please? There are references to its status being 'retired' like Bliss32. I didn't get a response from HP's hobbyist administrator regarding it being available through them.
Hoping someone can help.
They have the version I want running at the Living Computers Museum on Rosie which recently moved over from a 780-5 to a 6000-640 but it appears still to be sysgen'd for 24Mb main memory (I'm sure the 6000 has more than that) and my pagefilequota isn't big enough to do the Lisp'ing I want to do and my working set limits would result in a horrendous amount of paging. Hence the need to do it locally.
Regards,
Keith
Thank you Oleg. Exciting to see it appears IMPVAX and CTAKAH are now
connected over MULTINET.
$ MC NCP SHOW CIRCUIT TCP-0-99 CHAR
Circuit Volatile Characteristics as of 24-FEB-2019 04:39:10
Circuit = TCP-0-99
State = on
Service = enabled
Cost = 1
Hello timer = 15
Verification = disabled
Adjacent node = 62.637 (CTAKAH)
Listen timer = 30
$ MC NCP TELL CTAKAH SHOW ACTIVE CIRCUITS
Active Circuit Volatile Summary as of 24-FEB-2019 04:39:23
Circuit State Loopback Adjacent
Name Routing Node
UNA-0 on 62.5 (BOPOHA)
UNA-0 62.17 (CCCP)
DL-0 on 62.11 (KYPEBO)
IP-0-0 on 1.13 (MIM)
IP-0-1 on -starting
IP-0-2 on -starting
IP-0-3 on 1.559 (IMPVAX)
$
Best wishes,
Supratim
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> copy of message :)
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> On 24-Feb-2019 2:59, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
>> Hi Oleg,
>
> Hi!
>
>> If possible, I would like to set up a MULTINET link to CTAKAH. On this
>> side, it will be IMPVAX (52.23.221.223, 1.559).
>
> No problems :)
> Just connect via TCP to pdp-11.online:700
>
> WBR
> //form
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Hi Oleg,
If possible, I would like to set up a MULTINET link to CTAKAH. On this
side, it will be IMPVAX (52.23.221.223, 1.559).
By the way, Novosibirsk looked very beautiful in the night when our
Moscow-Chita train pulled up around 4 AM.
Thank you,
Supratim
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There are some services available on Phase V which aren't on Phase IV like DECnet-over-IP, DTSS and a few others. If you like to use those, then Phase V is your choice.Personally I use Phase V on most Alphas and on bigger VAXen. Others run Phase IV.KariSent from Samsung tablet.
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From: Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net>
Date: 2/18/19 18:42 (GMT+02:00)
To: HECnet Distribution List <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: [HECnet] DECnet Phase-V usage within HECnet
Anyone using DECnet Phase-V on VAX/VMS V7.3 in the HECnet community?I am rebuilding SGC::.? It is MUCH bigger and faster so I may go the Phase-V route if it has any real value.? Comments?Thanks!-Steve
Hi everyone,
I've some across a bit of a problem and was hoping that someone else here
has either experienced it or is able to have a clue as to what is going on.
I run a Cisco 1841 (a12rtr) here which is my link to the HECnet. This is
established with three GRE tunnels to area 22, 61 and 42. This router is
inside a network that is edged with a Cisco ASA (gatekeeper). The router
a12rtr also has other GRE tunnels and 6in4 tunnels.
All tunnels are established and traffic is flowing over the ipv4 and ipv6
tunnels without issue. There is also traffic flowing over the DECnet
tunnels as well. However...
Despite having adjacencies for the three DECnet routers on the other end of
the DECnet tunnels, my routing table is not filling up.
Area Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Expires Prio
*12 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR
Node Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Expires Prio
*(Area) 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR
*BENDER 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> BENDER 60
*TRON 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> TRON 99
*ELYSIM 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> ELYSIM 1525
*A12RTR 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR
a12rtr#show decnet neighbors
Net Node Interface MAC address Flags
0 22.1023 Tunnel58 0000.0000.0000 A
0 42.1022 Tunnel51 0000.0000.0000 A
0 61.1023 Tunnel53 0000.0000.0000 A
0 12.2 FastEthernet0/1 aa00.0400.0230
0 12.3 FastEthernet0/1 aa00.0400.0330
0 12.12 FastEthernet0/1 aa00.0400.0c30
I can also see that the routers are communicating when I switch on debug:
*Feb 15 04:19:37.007: DNET-ADJ: Endnode hello from 12.3
*Feb 15 04:19:39.835: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 hello from 42.1022
*Feb 15 04:19:39.835: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 (IV+) hello from 42.1022
*Feb 15 04:19:43.207: DNET-ADJ: Endnode hello from 12.2
*Feb 15 04:19:45.211: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 hello from 61.1023
*Feb 15 04:19:45.211: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 (IV+) hello from 61.1023
*Feb 15 04:19:46.315: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 hello from 22.1023
*Feb 15 04:19:46.315: DNET-ADJ: Level 2 (IV+) hello from 22.1023
So, I am a bit confused as to why there is no routing being exchanged. Is
this just a bug and I need to give the router a reboot (it has only been up
for 6 days).?
I did notice this:
a12rtr#show decnet database
Area/Node Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Status
12 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR Active
22 20 1 Tunnel58 -> 22.1023 Backup
42 20 1 Tunnel51 -> 42.1022 Backup
61 20 1 Tunnel53 -> 61.1023 Backup
BENDER 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> BENDER Active
TRON 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> TRON Active
ELYSIM 10 1 FastEthernet0/1 -> ELYSIM Active
A12RTR 0 0 (Local) -> A12RTR Active
The tunnels are all listed as "backup". I've tried a lot of different
things and I'm still experimenting, but I still don't have an answer.
Despite a very long time working with this stuff I've never encountered a
situation where the routing table did not populate.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated :-)
Regards, Tim.
What is the simplest PDP-11 CPU/peripheral design that is capable of
running RSX-11, RSTS/E or BSD?
Also, what is the minimum disk space needed to install those operating
systems? I have a plan. Probably not a good one but I'll likely learn a lot
in the the process so it won't be a waste of time.
-brian
Hi HECnet,
I am wondering if people could help me out please and do a search on
your VAX systems (VMS or Unix) and see if you get a hit for any of the
following paths/names. These files will form MLkit which is an early
implementation of the ML programming language written in Pascal. It is
a tricky string to search for these days online since it collides with
MachineLearning.
Paths to search for:
/usr/bin/ml
/usr/lib/ml/mlsys
/usr/lib/ml/lib.ml
mlkit
VMS might have similar names (mlsys, ml, mlkit) but in a single level directory.
thanks,
nigel.
Time for a new release announcement of TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS.
Highlights:
This release has many performance improvements at the TCP level, support
for new languages, improvements in various tools and libraries, and some
functional improvements at protocol level.
Detailed information on things that have been done since the last release:
Documentation:
. Added information on performance issues with XEDRV ethernet driver
provided with RSX for non-DECnet systems.
. Updated documentation with new functions and language libraries.
Interfaces:
. Changed default number of receives issues by ETHACP to 6.
. Added SET IFn: RECEIVE n to change how many outstanding receives
to have on ethernet interface. This is now dynamic at runtime.
TCP:
. Added rejection counting for SYN packets to ports with
no listeners.
. Bugfix. MSS should never be larger than the buffer size in TCP.
. Correct TCP ACK repeat rate to also consider the buffer size.
With a small buffer, we cannot have a low ack rate.
. Improve TCP retransmission. If more than one packet is ACKed,
assume we are actually on track, and reverts to normal mode.
. If we have a socket with lots of full size packets, we
do not send window updates immediately if the window is
growing. We might as well keep the slower rate.
. Improved TCP performance at high throughput mode.
. Changed TCP receive ACK generation to do dynamic handling
of how often ACKs needs to be sent.
. Fixed TCP close function to not generate spurious packets.
. Changed TCP slow start window processing.
. Fix TCP retransmission logic. Under some circumstances, packet
only retransmitted with a delay, even though they should have
been retransmitted immediately.
. Improved TCP nagle implementation.
. Improved TCP retransmit recover logic.
. Changed TCP to allow combination of PU.TXT and PU.RXP.
. Changed TCP to start daemons with the installed default UIC.
FTP/FTPD:
. Changed FTP login routines to set system type in login routine
instead of in open routine.
. Added init file for FTP.
. Bugfix. If FTPD was requested to list files in Unix format,
and a file was protected, FTPD could crash.
. Added KEEPALIVE command to FTP.
. Changed FTP client to use nagle on command channel.
. Bugfix in FTP DIR command, which could crash with a stack corrupt.
. Bugfix in FTPD. If FTPD logs in to a directory without a FTP.TXT,
the mode of the command channel ended up wrong.
. Change FTP and FTPD to better utilize tcp high throughput mode.
. Bugfix in FTPD. Files sent to FTPD did not get the correct owner set.
RMD:
. Bugfix in RMD TCP network page. Byte counters had been changed
to 3 word fields.
Multinet:
. Bugfix in MULTINET. Some error messages was printed with a corrupt
line number.
. Changed multinet to always push tcp data.
MAILD:
. Bugfix in MAILD. Other changes had caused MAILD to not be able to
process mails with multiple recipients. MAILQUE.DAT file format had
to change, so the mail queue needs to be reinitialized.
. Added proper message id handling to MAILD.
. Improve dispay of mails when reading.
. Bugfix. Unprivileged users could not create their mailbox in MAIL.
. Improved MAIL11 receive address processing.
HTTPD:
. Added ability for CGI programs to return other than 200 status.
IRCBOT:
. Changed IRCBOT to be more efficient and sane with PUSHes.
Libraries:
. Change BQTLIB to not require privileges for isco() function from C.
. Change IPC library to include listen() as well as sgetc().
Pascal:
. Added support for Oregon Pascal-2.
XLisp:
. Added XLISP and some example programs to distribution.
As usual, the distribution is available from:
ftp://mim.update.uu.se/bqtcp.dsk
ftp://mim.update.uu.se/bqtcp.tap
ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/rsx/tcpip/tcpip.dsk
The documentation is also available through ftp on Mim, or also at
http://mim.update.uu.se/tcpipdoc
I hope people find this update useful. While there are no really
critical issues that have been solved, I still recommend people to
update, since this new version do contain improvements that are
beneficial and as far as I know there are no issues or problems updating
to this newest version.
Johnny
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