HECnet May 2014

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OpenVMS VAX Software Products Library 2007 now available

by ian＠platinum.net

Just confirmed that the ISO is unreadable in Charon vax. Hmmm. Will try different hardware for the rip... Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Gentlemen, I tried a different approach to ripping, using cdrdao to get a raw image and track layout, just in case there were multiple tracks (which the ISO format doesn't support). I've only tested disc 1 so far, but I confirmed that I got the same size binary as I got using dd, with the same SHA checksum, and the track list confirms a single track. dd with bs=512 and bs=2048 gives me the same binary also. Can anyone else confirm or deny that disc 1 (AG-RVYRR-BE) works or doesn't work? Ian On May 14, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote: On 14 May 2014, at 15:24, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Jordi, Thanks for the report. Not sure what went wrong. I quickly ripped them and put them up but didn't test them. I'll put them in some real DEC hardware today and see what's going on. This isn't something wonky like you have to dd them at bs=512 or something is it? -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts. --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here

10 years, 6 months

OpenVMS VAX Software Products Library 2007 now available

by ian＠platinum.net

Gentlemen, I tried a different approach to ripping, using cdrdao to get a raw image and track layout, just in case there were multiple tracks (which the ISO format doesn't support). I've only tested disc 1 so far, but I confirmed that I got the same size binary as I got using dd, with the same SHA checksum, and the track list confirms a single track. dd with bs=512 and bs=2048 gives me the same binary also. Can anyone else confirm or deny that disc 1 (AG-RVYRR-BE) works or doesn't work? Ian On May 14, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote: On 14 May 2014, at 15:24, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Jordi, Thanks for the report. Not sure what went wrong. I quickly ripped them and put them up but didn't test them. I'll put them in some real DEC hardware today and see what's going on. This isn't something wonky like you have to dd them at bs=512 or something is it? -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts. --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here

10 years, 6 months

VAX CD images and hobbyist licensing

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Okay that's one set. I've already done step one. I needed to do that when I thought I could do it via SIMH. I got as far as bringing things up, but it didn't want to stay up....... I'll need to track down my member number with them I think... As for John Egolf and his magic string, I'll go ahead with that now. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote: On 14 May 2014, at 15:54, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: Hello! Well I've gone off into the deep end and last night (or early this morning) I downloaded a batch of items from the people behind the Charon-VAX thing. Right now I'm downloading an AXP image from Ian's site and I'll know in a few more minutes if it works. However what are the steps for securing a license from HP to run things? I'm more interested in trying to get VAX-VMS running rather then the Alpha one. So would one of you know where the Hobbyist VMS project is roosting these days? I'll also need to contact them for a license. Easiest way is 2 stages: 1. Register with DECUServe/Encompass here: http://decuserve.org/ (I always do it by telnet because it makes me feel warm and fuzzy ;)) 2. Wait 7-10 days for it to get through the works then put in a request via: http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3 That will get you an official Hobbyist PAK set emailed to you form John Egolf, the PAK is only valid for 13 months so be sure to keep your DECuserve subscription up to date and re-apply in time next year. A system with expired PAKs can be a bit of a pain to get up and running again, although emulators are MUCH easier (as you can copy/paste into them unlike real VAXs). -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

10 years, 6 months

VAX CD images and hobbyist licensing

by md.benson＠gmail.com

On 14 May 2014, at 15:54, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: Hello! Well I've gone off into the deep end and last night (or early this morning) I downloaded a batch of items from the people behind the Charon-VAX thing. Right now I'm downloading an AXP image from Ian's site and I'll know in a few more minutes if it works. However what are the steps for securing a license from HP to run things? I'm more interested in trying to get VAX-VMS running rather then the Alpha one. So would one of you know where the Hobbyist VMS project is roosting these days? I'll also need to contact them for a license. Easiest way is 2 stages: 1. Register with DECUServe/Encompass here: http://decuserve.org/ (I always do it by telnet because it makes me feel warm and fuzzy ;)) 2. Wait 7-10 days for it to get through the works then put in a request via: http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3 That will get you an official Hobbyist PAK set emailed to you form John Egolf, the PAK is only valid for 13 months so be sure to keep your DECuserve subscription up to date and re-apply in time next year. A system with expired PAKs can be a bit of a pain to get up and running again, although emulators are MUCH easier (as you can copy/paste into them unlike real VAXs). -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

10 years, 6 months

VAX CD images and hobbyist licensing

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Well I've gone off into the deep end and last night (or early this morning) I downloaded a batch of items from the people behind the Charon-VAX thing. Right now I'm downloading an AXP image from Ian's site and I'll know in a few more minutes if it works. However what are the steps for securing a license from HP to run things? I'm more interested in trying to get VAX-VMS running rather then the Alpha one. So would one of you know where the Hobbyist VMS project is roosting these days? I'll also need to contact them for a license. Sampsa if this works and I do manage to bring it up is your offer to provide PPTP links between your arrangement and here still good? I'll then be ready obtain an area number. Does someone maintain a reasonably up to date list of areas indicating which ones are occupied and which ones are not? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

10 years, 6 months

OpenVMS VAX Software Products Library 2007 now available

by md.benson＠gmail.com

On 14 May 2014, at 15:24, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Jordi, Thanks for the report. Not sure what went wrong. I quickly ripped them and put them up but didn't test them. I'll put them in some real DEC hardware today and see what's going on. FWIW My set (also from Scott Martin) work just fine as File-11 on my VAXstation 4000/60. -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

10 years, 6 months

OpenVMS VAX Software Products Library 2007 now available

by md.benson＠gmail.com

On 14 May 2014, at 15:24, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Jordi, Thanks for the report. Not sure what went wrong. I quickly ripped them and put them up but didn't test them. I'll put them in some real DEC hardware today and see what's going on. This isn't something wonky like you have to dd them at bs=512 or something is it? -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

10 years, 6 months

OpenVMS VAX Software Products Library 2007 now available

by ian＠platinum.net

Jordi, Thanks for the report. Not sure what went wrong. I quickly ripped them and put them up but didn't test them. I'll put them in some real DEC hardware today and see what's going on. Ian Sent from my iPad On May 14, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: El 13/05/2014, a les 21.35, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> va escriure: Hello All, Thanks to the kind donation of CDs from Scott Martin from the Vintage Computing linkedin group, I now have the OpenVMS VAX software product library collection from December 2007 available on my site. Feel free to grab a copy. http://www.vaxhaven.com/CD_Image_Archive For some reason, VMS running under simh does not like your images: btes08>> att rq3 /Users/jguillaumes/work/AG-RSAVY-BE.iso btes08>> show rq3 RQ3 762MB, attached to /Users/jguillaumes/work/AG-RSAVY-BE.iso, read only RRD40, autosize, SIMH format btes08>> c [BTES08]$ [BTES08]$ [BTES08]$ mount/over=ident dua3: %MOUNT-F-NOHOMEBLK, Files-11 home block not found on volume -MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = '.... ', owner = ' VAXBINDE', format = 'C075SYSTEM ' [BTES08]$ mount/over=ident dua3:/media=cdrom %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 14-MAY-2014 15:54:32.41 %%%%%%%%%%% Message from user SYSTEM on BTES08 no CD-ROM volume descriptor found %MOUNT-I-OPRQST, no CD-ROM volume descriptor found %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 14-MAY-2014 15:54:32.41 %%%%%%%%%%% Request 1, from user SYSTEM on BTES08 Please mount device _BTES08$DUA3: MacOSX is not able to mount them either, so I guess they are not in ISO format. VMS says they are not Files-11 either. Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=6E7114A8DB7011E3A…

10 years, 6 months

TK50 issues

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

I guess you meant iso-propanol, right? Just in case someone runs to the chemist for a pint of the aldehyde, which is a lot more toxic than the alcohol. Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Van: Jerome H. Fine Verzonden: woensdag 14 mei 2014 03:19 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] TK50 issues >Cory Smelosky wrote: Evening all, Got a nice haul of equipment today...aside from the TK50 issues and the smoking VT340 everything seems to be okay! However: CARTRIDGE PRESENT HEAD AT TRACK ZERO POSITIONED AT BOT TRK NUMBER 00 LOGICAL TRACK NUMBER = 0. PHYSICAL BLK# 0000 PHYSICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 0. LOGICAL BLK# 00 LOGICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 0. TAPE POSITION 000EFB TAPE POSITION = 3835. DRIVE STATE 035E RD/WRT STATE 1937 OPERATION FLGS 0201 CNTRLR STATUS 0C DRIVE ERROR DRIVE ERR CODE 93 AMPLITUDE ON HEAD 2 TOO LOW and an error about it being unable to find calibration track 2 on the second drive lead me to believe the drives may be faulty. The leader isn't broken and I've reattached it to the arm on the one where it had come off. How would I do about cleaning one? Are the drives bad and a cleaning wouldn't help? (Yes, I tried multiple cartridges) Over 95% of the time I had a "bad" TK50, it was because the heads required cleaning. After sitting around for more than a decade, the TK50 tapes no longer leave the heads very clean. Cleaning the TK50 head is quite easy once the drive has been removed from a drive bay and the 3 bolts holding down the cover have been removed. A smaller screw driver can then remove the bolt holding the piece in front of the head. I use Q-tips and isoproponal. The whole procedure takes less than 5 minutes. No alignment is required if just the piece in front of the head is removed since it blots back into exactly the same position. Probably the rollers should also be cleaned as well. I usually had to clean the heads every time the equivalent of a complete TK50 tape was used. If the TK50 drive is going to be used frequently, it is best to leave the drive out of the drive bay. with the cover off. However, be sure to keep the same power source from the backplane. While a hard disk drive seems to accept a PC power supply as the power source, the TK50 seems to require the same power source as the backplane which is used to power the CPU and other boards. If necessary, use an extension for the 5v / 12v plug that the TK50 requires. The normal 20 pin (??) cable for signals to the controller board is usually long enough to stretch to some other convenient location outside the drive bay. Jerome Fine

10 years, 6 months

OpenVMS VAX Software Products Library 2007 now available

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

El 13/05/2014, a les 21.35, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> va escriure: Hello All, Thanks to the kind donation of CDs from Scott Martin from the Vintage Computing linkedin group, I now have the OpenVMS VAX software product library collection from December 2007 available on my site. Feel free to grab a copy. http://www.vaxhaven.com/CD_Image_Archive For some reason, VMS running under simh does not like your images: btes08>> att rq3 /Users/jguillaumes/work/AG-RSAVY-BE.iso btes08>> show rq3 RQ3 762MB, attached to /Users/jguillaumes/work/AG-RSAVY-BE.iso, read only RRD40, autosize, SIMH format btes08>> c [BTES08]$ [BTES08]$ [BTES08]$ mount/over=ident dua3: %MOUNT-F-NOHOMEBLK, Files-11 home block not found on volume -MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = '.... ', owner = ' VAXBINDE', format = 'C075SYSTEM ' [BTES08]$ mount/over=ident dua3:/media=cdrom %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 14-MAY-2014 15:54:32.41 %%%%%%%%%%% Message from user SYSTEM on BTES08 no CD-ROM volume descriptor found %MOUNT-I-OPRQST, no CD-ROM volume descriptor found %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 14-MAY-2014 15:54:32.41 %%%%%%%%%%% Request 1, from user SYSTEM on BTES08 Please mount device _BTES08$DUA3: MacOSX is not able to mount them either, so I guess they are not in ISO format. VMS says they are not Files-11 either. Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

10 years, 6 months

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