HECnet May 2014

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by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On May 20, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Well, I'm just not having ANY luck with this... ... SYSTEM CRASH AT LOCATION 014402 REGISTERS R0=000002 R1=120550 R2=000000 R3=120546 R4=120744 R5=031610 SP=117772 PS=020010 ... I seem to be TERRIBLE and SYSGEN. Maybe you just have a bad drive, and RSX is unhappy just as RSTS was. paul

10 years, 6 months

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by bernier＠pescadoo.net

At 5:52 PM +0200 20/5/14, Johnny Billquist wrote: Discontinued. Of course... :-( To new readers, let me introduce me. I was the operator of nodes 10.1 (SHARK) and 10.2 (SNAKE) until I had to reorganize (== shrink) my server facility and flip the HECNET switch off on July 2010. SHARK and SNAKE have resurrected from 4 years in limbo, thanks to VirtualBox. They are PDP's running 11M+. I even discovered a forgotten 10.3 (SQUID), with sysgened PC11 to spool data from/to Unix pipes. That was the opportunity to check HECNET community health, and I am pleased to see it is in great form. This list is one of the more active I subscribe to. I was surprised to see 10.1 and 10.2 in MADAME's nodes table. Is this for real? I thought they had been purged or reassigned for long. Virtualization had the side effect to move simh from Mac OS X to Linux, and things are much more simpler and up-to-date (Apple don't care BSD besides its own needs). I am now trying to install DECNET for Linux. This will allow to move large sound files from the ancient world to the present. -- Jean-Yves Bernier

10 years, 6 months

RSX-11 setback

by b4＠gewt.net

Well, I'm just not having ANY luck with this... VMR @SYSVMR VMR -- *DIAG*-Partition reduced to executive common size INS EXCOM1 VMR -- *DIAG*-Partition reduced to executive common size INS EXCOM2 VMR -- *DIAG*-Loadable driver larger than 4K LOA TT: VMR -- *DIAG*-Installed tasks may no longer fit in partition SET /TOP=DRVPAR:-* POOL=1200:9644.:09644. (That bit is understandable. I must've configured it too big!) boo [1,54]rsx11m SYSTEM CRASH AT LOCATION 014402 REGISTERS R0=000002 R1=120550 R2=000000 R3=120546 R4=120744 R5=031610 SP=117772 PS=020010 SYSTEM STACK DUMP LOCATION CONTENTS 117772 000004 001344 After reboot: boo [1.54]rsx11m MCR -- Task not in system ins $boo boo [1,54]rsx11,\,\m [no output] I seem to be TERRIBLE and SYSGEN. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

10 years, 6 months

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

The item shown is just the interface box. The Pro 300 series Technical Manual describes the whole system it consists of three parts, the one shown in the Ebay entry is one of the three the Voice unit , which is basically a speakerphone box with some extra buttons on it that the software can see. Not clear if the other two parts, which are the important ones, are included in the offer. paul On May 20, 2014, at 1:04 PM, lee.gleason at comcast.net wrote: If anyone out there is hankering to have one, a DEC PRO telephone Voice Unit is on Ebay right now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NASA-Digital-DEC-DTC11-B-Voice-Unit-Professional-30…

10 years, 6 months

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by lee.gleason＠comcast.net

If anyone out there is hankering to have one, a DEC PRO telephone Voice Unit is on Ebay right now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NASA-Digital-DEC-DTC11-B-Voice-Unit-Professional-30… -- Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR Control-G Consultants lee.gleason at comcast.net From: "Billquist, Johnny" <bqt at softjar.se> To: "hecnet" <hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:52:04 AM Subject: Re: QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet] On 2014-05-20 17:39, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote: > At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >> I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. > > > This one has both: > http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg > > The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. > > Here is the mixer screen: > http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png > > and the edit screen: > http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png > > > 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. > > Serial BitPad. > > Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. > > > Discontinued. Of course... :-( Anyway, I just realized/remembered that I'm not sure if the PRO was ever mentioned in the context of PDP-11 with graphics and sound. The PRO obviously always have grahpics. But there was also a sound option to it, which could interface with telephone systems. Not sure exactly how capable it was, but I have some blurb in a handbook somewhere. Johnny

10 years, 6 months

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-20 18:04, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! It's strange. I think I've seen a PRO someplace, but I can't recall where. I do recall seeing a PDP-11 working in special circumstances. (Would anyone curious please ask off list.) Would a board built to be a MIDI controller suffice? One of the composers who specializes in TV music basically constructed a whole system for a TV show about thirty years ago. Eventually he switched to a Mac....... Well, I have a PRO-380. But I don't have any sound on mine... I just know that there was at least the TMS system, which interfaced to the telephones. It could also produce general sounds, if I remember right. There might have been some other sound system as well, but I would have to check. Johnny ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-05-20 17:39, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote: At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. This one has both: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. Here is the mixer screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png and the edit screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. Serial BitPad. Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. Discontinued. Of course... :-( Anyway, I just realized/remembered that I'm not sure if the PRO was ever mentioned in the context of PDP-11 with graphics and sound. The PRO obviously always have grahpics. But there was also a sound option to it, which could interface with telephone systems. Not sure exactly how capable it was, but I have some blurb in a handbook somewhere. Johnny

10 years, 6 months

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! It's strange. I think I've seen a PRO someplace, but I can't recall where. I do recall seeing a PDP-11 working in special circumstances. (Would anyone curious please ask off list.) Would a board built to be a MIDI controller suffice? One of the composers who specializes in TV music basically constructed a whole system for a TV show about thirty years ago. Eventually he switched to a Mac....... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-05-20 17:39, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote: At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. This one has both: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. Here is the mixer screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png and the edit screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. Serial BitPad. Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. Discontinued. Of course... :-( Anyway, I just realized/remembered that I'm not sure if the PRO was ever mentioned in the context of PDP-11 with graphics and sound. The PRO obviously always have grahpics. But there was also a sound option to it, which could interface with telephone systems. Not sure exactly how capable it was, but I have some blurb in a handbook somewhere. Johnny

10 years, 6 months

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-20 17:39, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote: At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. This one has both: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. Here is the mixer screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png and the edit screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. Serial BitPad. Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. Discontinued. Of course... :-( Anyway, I just realized/remembered that I'm not sure if the PRO was ever mentioned in the context of PDP-11 with graphics and sound. The PRO obviously always have grahpics. But there was also a sound option to it, which could interface with telephone systems. Not sure exactly how capable it was, but I have some blurb in a handbook somewhere. Johnny

10 years, 6 months

RSTS/E is really picky

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 20 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote: It's a dual-height board. I don't think it /can/ be an 11/23+! Doh! So you actually have a KDF11-AA (M8186). That sucks. I'm not sure if those were ever upgraded to 22-bit addressing, or if you need the KDF11-BA (M8189) for that. Not sure. Not going to complaing considering the price. ;) Oh well, so you might actually be stuck with 11M then. Yeah. :( My 11/23+ board is dead++ but I have a replacement (eventually) on the way. Hey, at least I can run mapped unlike my 11/03s. ;) I have a lot of those boards... I'm tired and I've been fiddling with many different things. ;) :-) Johnny -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

10 years, 6 months

RSTS/E is really picky

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-20 17:11, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote: My memory board is third-party. Looks like it's truncating my memory then. ;) Are you sure. Very few 11/23 systems actually exist. Most people really have 11/23+ systems, even if they are not aware of it. It's a dual-height board. I don't think it /can/ be an 11/23+! Doh! So you actually have a KDF11-AA (M8186). That sucks. I'm not sure if those were ever upgraded to 22-bit addressing, or if you need the KDF11-BA (M8189) for that. Oh well, so you might actually be stuck with 11M then. (That said, without split I/D-space, you'll have preciously little pool space, but that might not be a big issue for you right here.) Probably not. I'll only have one disk in use at a time really. Pool space is used for many things, but with just one user, and few things running, not much pool is needed. Ahh. I must be thinking of...buffer space? Not sure what you are thinking of. :-) I'm tired and I've been fiddling with many different things. ;) :-) Johnny

10 years, 6 months

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