On Sat, 20 Jul 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
And why you can't access a VM that's downstairs because you didn't make your network config static enough..
True. My network is a bit crazy.
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On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:08, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Of course. This explains why your home is surrounded by a dozen Yeti.
Each using your network connection to crash China all in the name of
Tibet.
And why traffic to my living room from my desk passes through 2 routers and 4 switches.
I described that one and the one regarding Dave, to a fellow I know at
my local LUG, he found it rather amusing.
;)
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On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
And why you can't access a VM that's downstairs because you didn't make your network config static enough..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:08, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Of course. This explains why your home is surrounded by a dozen Yeti.
Each using your network connection to crash China all in the name of
Tibet.
And why traffic to my living room from my desk passes through 2 routers and 4 switches.
I described that one and the one regarding Dave, to a fellow I know at
my local LUG, he found it rather amusing.
;)
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
--
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Hello!
I have that annoying problem every time I spin up two of them hosted
on the same slightly overworked, and definitely underpaid Linux box,
who is not named Kermit.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
And why you can't access a VM that's downstairs because you didn't make your network config static enough..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 20 Jul 2013, at 11:08, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Of course. This explains why your home is surrounded by a dozen Yeti.
Each using your network connection to crash China all in the name of
Tibet.
And why traffic to my living room from my desk passes through 2 routers and 4 switches.
I described that one and the one regarding Dave, to a fellow I know at
my local LUG, he found it rather amusing.
;)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Of course. This explains why your home is surrounded by a dozen Yeti.
Each using your network connection to crash China all in the name of
Tibet.
And why traffic to my living room from my desk passes through 2 routers and 4 switches.
I described that one and the one regarding Dave, to a fellow I know at
my local LUG, he found it rather amusing.
;)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 20 Jul 2013, at 00:05, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Evening,
Brian: Have you gotten around to updating the config? I'm trying to get my
crazy routing to work and I need to get connected to HECnet to test.
I have a router in the basement (9.1022) routing to the core (9.1023).
9.1022 is routing-iv, 9.1023 is area. I want to have 9.1022 pass all
traffic that isn't destined for 9.XXXX to 9.1023 to hand off. Is this the
way to do it? (I actually can't do it any other way. The routers are
connected together over MoCa and I'm not doing layer 2 between them)
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Hello!
Perhaps work got the best of him? Be patient.
Oh, it wasn t intended to be angry. I as just wondering if he had had a
chance to get to it.
--
**Sounds of a massive explosion is heard.** Uh oh. Now you've done it Dave.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hello!
Of course. This explains why your home is surrounded by a dozen Yeti.
Each using your network connection to crash China all in the name of
Tibet.
I described that one and the one regarding Dave, to a fellow I know at
my local LUG, he found it rather amusing.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 20 Jul 2013, at 00:05, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Evening,
Brian: Have you gotten around to updating the config? I'm trying to get my
crazy routing to work and I need to get connected to HECnet to test.
I have a router in the basement (9.1022) routing to the core (9.1023).
9.1022 is routing-iv, 9.1023 is area. I want to have 9.1022 pass all
traffic that isn't destined for 9.XXXX to 9.1023 to hand off. Is this the
way to do it? (I actually can't do it any other way. The routers are
connected together over MoCa and I'm not doing layer 2 between them)
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Hello!
Perhaps work got the best of him? Be patient.
Oh, it wasn t intended to be angry. I as just wondering if he had had a chance to get to it.
--
**Sounds of a massive explosion is heard.** Uh oh. Now you've done it Dave.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Evening,
Brian: Have you gotten around to updating the config? I'm trying to get my
crazy routing to work and I need to get connected to HECnet to test.
I have a router in the basement (9.1022) routing to the core (9.1023).
9.1022 is routing-iv, 9.1023 is area. I want to have 9.1022 pass all
traffic that isn't destined for 9.XXXX to 9.1023 to hand off. Is this the
way to do it? (I actually can't do it any other way. The routers are
connected together over MoCa and I'm not doing layer 2 between them)
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Hello!
Perhaps work got the best of him? Be patient.
--
**Sounds of a massive explosion is heard.** Uh oh. Now you've done it Dave.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Evening,
Brian: Have you gotten around to updating the config? I'm trying to get my crazy routing to work and I need to get connected to HECnet to test.
I have a router in the basement (9.1022) routing to the core (9.1023). 9.1022 is routing-iv, 9.1023 is area. I want to have 9.1022 pass all traffic that isn't destined for 9.XXXX to 9.1023 to hand off. Is this the way to do it? (I actually can't do it any other way. The routers are connected together over MoCa and I'm not doing layer 2 between them)
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
From: Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
While the Massbus adapter talked SMD for all these drives, the Massbus
adapter for the RM02/03 is not the same as for the RM05. Unless I
remember wrong, they are very different beasts. And they identify
themself as the exact type of drive on the Massbus as well, and the
capacities and geometries differs, which is important, as Massbus drives
expose all these details to the computer.
The RM adapter is *mostly* the same across RM02/03/05/80, but yes I think in
each case there's at least one board that's different (later version to add
register bits for larger drives etc.). It's the same basic design though.
The one in the RM05 is mounted differently (horiz instead of vert) so you
can fit two of them into the mini-cab between two drives. The others all
had enough space under the drive itself for the RM adapter so they didn't
bother trying to conserve space.
John Wilson
D Bit
On 2013-07-16 03:34, Bob Armstrong wrote:
lee.gleason at comcast.net wrote:
I remember poring over the drawings for the RB730 at the time,
wondering if a plain non-DEC SMD drive would have worked ....
Yeah - I was wondering the same thing. The RM80 Technical Manual doesn't seem to be online, but the RM MASSBUS Adapter Technical Manual
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/www.computer.museum.uq.edu.au/pdf/EK-RMA…
has a lot of information about the RM80 too. It looks like the RM80 used the same MASSBUS Drive Control Logic box as the RM0x drives. As I remember, the RM02/3/5 were CDC 9760-something drives, which were SMD. Of course it's possible that the DEC OEM versions had customized interfaces.
The RB730 Technical Manual is also online
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/vax/730/EK-RB730-TD-001_VAX-11_7…
and it has a description of the R80 interface, but this version doesn't look that much like SMD to me.
While the Massbus adapter talked SMD for all these drives, the Massbus adapter for the RM02/03 is not the same as for the RM05. Unless I remember wrong, they are very different beasts. And they identify themself as the exact type of drive on the Massbus as well, and the capacities and geometries differs, which is important, as Massbus drives expose all these details to the computer.
So I very much doubt the Massbus adapter for the RM80 is the same as either of the others.
(The RM02 and RM03 is the same drive, just with different rotational speed.)
Also, the RP04/05/06 are also SMD drives inside, but with a totally different Massbus - SMD interface. And yes, as John mentioned, DEC actually did slightly change the SMD interface so that it is not a plug and play with any other SMD drives, even if other parameters would be compatible.
Oh, and by the way, I'm not sure the R80 is an SMD drive at all. Is it?
Johnny
