On 2013-05-07 19:17, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:58, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:48, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:35, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Anybody have this?
My DS200/MC has just bit the dust it seems.
Send the DS200 my way. I like fixing those.
Every time I've had a problem with any of these, it has been the
power
supply. Got any hints on what breaks?
In the case of mine the fans failed which resulted in rubber around
inductors melting and having other components fail due to the heat.
Seems like similar has happened to people around the internet.
http://osx.dev.gimme-sympathy.org/users/b4/weblog/6b8a6/images/0e170.JPG#32…
I actually have ones with no fans...
Hopefully not with the original PSU? ;)
No, it's original. I have at least three of them (without fans).
However, I think the last one gave up last year. I'm now running with
with fans...
Interesting! I wonder how long mine ran without fans then.
Note that they actually are original *without* fans. As in "there have never been any fans installed in the boxes". Made that way by DEC.
Maybe DEC eventually started putting fans in because of issues with the PSU... :-)
Johnny
On 2013-05-07 19:16, Bob Armstrong wrote:
You need to type "RUN BRU" and so on.
Yep, FWIW that's it. Operator error. Sorry.
You can say "RUN BRU" in BRUSYS and nothing else. Not "BRU", "RUN $BRU",
"INS BRU", or anything else...
:-)
The explanation is actually pretty simple for all this.
BRUSYS is actually an 11S system (I said 11M before, but that is wrong). So it's all just memory resident stuff.
Anyway, "RUN $BRU" is a shorthand form for "RUN SY:[sysuic]BRU.TSK". As this is an 11S system, there are no disks, and such a command is totally unusable. Also, such a command in reality turns into an invocation of "...INS", which also do not exists in an 11S system.
"BRU" in a normal RSX system means MCR should try to invoke ...BRU. There is no "...BRU" installed in BRUSYS.
"RUN BRU" means run the installed imaged called "BRU ", which is the one that do exist.
The full list of tasks existing in BRUSYS is:
MCR...
RCT...
BAD
BRU
FMT
CNF
Fun, isn't it? :-)
Johnny
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:58, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:48, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:35, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Anybody have this?
My DS200/MC has just bit the dust it seems.
Send the DS200 my way. I like fixing those.
Every time I've had a problem with any of these, it has been the power
supply. Got any hints on what breaks?
In the case of mine the fans failed which resulted in rubber around
inductors melting and having other components fail due to the heat.
Seems like similar has happened to people around the internet.
http://osx.dev.gimme-sympathy.org/users/b4/weblog/6b8a6/images/0e170.JPG#32…
I actually have ones with no fans...
Hopefully not with the original PSU? ;)
No, it's original. I have at least three of them (without fans).
However, I think the last one gave up last year. I'm now running with
with fans...
Interesting! I wonder how long mine ran without fans then.
The board seems to be fine without fans...it's just the PSU needs them.
I have a little fan running on my DECserver that has an external PSU
now. It runs fine like this.
Like I said. All my experience with the DS100/200/300 are that the PSU
is the thing that eventually gives up. :-)
Yup. The power supplies are much more heat sensitive. ;)
Johnny
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You need to type "RUN BRU" and so on.
Yep, FWIW that's it. Operator error. Sorry.
You can say "RUN BRU" in BRUSYS and nothing else. Not "BRU", "RUN $BRU",
"INS BRU", or anything else...
Bob
On 2013-05-07 19:00, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah, I'll try to get it working, I have NO IDEA what I'm doing though,
no documentation that I can find by googling aside from some VMS install
guide.
Any idea how to reset it to it's factory settings?
Didn't I just answer that one?
Just hold the button while applying power.
Johnny
On 2013-05-07 18:58, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:48, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:35, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Anybody have this?
My DS200/MC has just bit the dust it seems.
Send the DS200 my way. I like fixing those.
Every time I've had a problem with any of these, it has been the power
supply. Got any hints on what breaks?
In the case of mine the fans failed which resulted in rubber around
inductors melting and having other components fail due to the heat.
Seems like similar has happened to people around the internet.
http://osx.dev.gimme-sympathy.org/users/b4/weblog/6b8a6/images/0e170.JPG#32…
I actually have ones with no fans...
Hopefully not with the original PSU? ;)
No, it's original. I have at least three of them (without fans). However, I think the last one gave up last year. I'm now running with with fans...
The board seems to be fine without fans...it's just the PSU needs them.
I have a little fan running on my DECserver that has an external PSU
now. It runs fine like this.
Like I said. All my experience with the DS100/200/300 are that the PSU is the thing that eventually gives up. :-)
Johnny
On 2013-05-07 18:54, Bob Armstrong wrote:
UFD DL0:[6,54]
PIP DL0:[6,54]/CO=DU0:[6,54]*.*
Right. And then you do BOO DL:[6,54]BRUSYS, which should be just fine.
I just booted it up and tried it to get the real message. Here's what I'm
doing -
Thanks. Now we're getting somewhere. :-)
Hardware boot DL0. This boots the "real" RSX; when it gets to the MCR
prompt, I say "BOO [6,54]BRUSYS".
BRUSYS boots normally, and asks the "first device/second device" stuff.
FWIW, I say "DL0" and "MS0".
That is probably a bad idea. The first device is where the distribution is. The second is the target where you want to install the stuff.
Hit enter and get the ">" prompt.
At this point, I enter "TIM 09:45 7-may-85" and it says
TIM -- 2
Syntax error. The MCR in BRUSYS is more than a little stupid.
You need to figure out in which form the time needs to be written for TIM to accept it. Probably something like "TIM 09:45 5/7/85".
Not "error 2" (sorry, I misremembered that part); just "2" ...
Yeah. MCR in BRUSYS is so limited it only gives these kind of error messages.
Typing BRU, BAD or INI all produce
MCR -- 1
Probably because BRU, BAD and INI are not known commands in MCR. You need to type "RUN BRU" and so on.
Curiously, entering just "TIM" with no argument actually works (although it
produces a bogus date/time).
:-)
I've never seen messages like this either; I'm hoping they mean something
to somebody.
I hope the above helps...
Johnny
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah, I'll try to get it working, I have NO IDEA what I'm doing though, no documentation that I can find by googling aside from some VMS install guide.
Any idea how to reset it to it's factory settings?
Holding the reset button during power on I believe. Can't remember for how long though.
On 7 May 2013, at 18:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
nning, turns out it was a bad transceiver.
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Yeah, I'll try to get it working, I have NO IDEA what I'm doing though, no documentation that I can find by googling aside from some VMS install guide.
Any idea how to reset it to it's factory settings?
On 7 May 2013, at 18:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
nning, turns out it was a bad transceiver.
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:48, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-05-07 18:35, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Anybody have this?
My DS200/MC has just bit the dust it seems.
Send the DS200 my way. I like fixing those.
Every time I've had a problem with any of these, it has been the power
supply. Got any hints on what breaks?
In the case of mine the fans failed which resulted in rubber around
inductors melting and having other components fail due to the heat.
Seems like similar has happened to people around the internet.
http://osx.dev.gimme-sympathy.org/users/b4/weblog/6b8a6/images/0e170.JPG#32…
I actually have ones with no fans...
Hopefully not with the original PSU? ;)
The board seems to be fine without fans...it's just the PSU needs them. I have a little fan running on my DECserver that has an external PSU now. It runs fine like this.
Although, in the case of mine the fans spinning in their condition probably would've resulted in extra heat.
(I also noticed that MIM tried booting a DS200 for quite a while and
failing, with the same "Line communication error" results. Same
transciever?)
Johnny
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http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
