No ethernet in '79, no phase IV. So a DU11?
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Van: Cory Smelosky
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: [HECnet] VAX/VMS 1.50
Verzonden: 4 april 2013 22:31
Afternoon all,
I managed to get this to boot in SIMH with minimal effort. (Started
from VMS 3.x and then installed 1.5 with a bunch of devices disabled)
sim> b rp2
Loading boot code from vmb.exe
VAX/VMS Version 1.50 12-APR-1979 09:30
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 04-APR-2013 14:39
OPCOM, 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.22, LOGFILE INITIALIZED, OPERATOR=_OPA0:
$ !
$ ! VAX/VMS system startup - Release 1
$ !
$ SHOW TIME
4-APR-2013 14:39:06
$ SET NOVERIFY
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, CONSOLE mounted on _DXA1:
Login quotas - Interactive limit=64, Current interactive value=0
SYSTEM job terminated at 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.49
Accounting information:
Buffered I/O count: 139 Peak working set size: 98
Direct I/O count: 38 Peak virtual size: 110
Page faults: 287 Mounted volumes: 1
Elapsed CPU time: 0 00:00:00.12 Elapsed time: 0 00:00:00.26
Username: SYSTEM
Password:
Welcome to VAX/VMS Version 1.50
$ sh network
NETWORK UNAVAILABLE
What kind of networking could I get working on this? Pre-Phase-IV using
a device SIMH doesn't have emulation support for? ;)
I can upload this disk image if anyone wants it.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
On 04/04/2013 04:35 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Afternoon all,
I managed to get this to boot in SIMH with minimal effort. (Started from
VMS 3.x and then installed 1.5 with a bunch of devices disabled)
sim> b rp2
Loading boot code from vmb.exe
VAX/VMS Version 1.50 12-APR-1979 09:30
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 04-APR-2013 14:39
OPCOM, 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.22, LOGFILE INITIALIZED, OPERATOR=_OPA0:
$ !
$ ! VAX/VMS system startup - Release 1
$ !
$ SHOW TIME
4-APR-2013 14:39:06
$ SET NOVERIFY
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, CONSOLE mounted on _DXA1:
Login quotas - Interactive limit=64, Current interactive value=0
SYSTEM job terminated at 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.49
Accounting information:
Buffered I/O count: 139 Peak working set size: 98
Direct I/O count: 38 Peak virtual size: 110
Page faults: 287 Mounted volumes: 1
Elapsed CPU time: 0 00:00:00.12 Elapsed time: 0 00:00:00.26
Username: SYSTEM
Password:
Welcome to VAX/VMS Version 1.50
$ sh network
NETWORK UNAVAILABLE
What kind of networking could I get working on this? Pre-Phase-IV using a
device SIMH doesn't have emulation support for? ;)
I can upload this disk image if anyone wants it.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
Hello!
I am impressed. What device is this that SIMH does not emulate?
It might emulate all I'd need. I'm not sure what networking on VMS this old would have been like. I just need to find documentation of VAX/VMS 1.50. ;)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Afternoon all,
I managed to get this to boot in SIMH with minimal effort. (Started from
VMS 3.x and then installed 1.5 with a bunch of devices disabled)
sim> b rp2
Loading boot code from vmb.exe
VAX/VMS Version 1.50 12-APR-1979 09:30
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 04-APR-2013 14:39
OPCOM, 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.22, LOGFILE INITIALIZED, OPERATOR=_OPA0:
$ !
$ ! VAX/VMS system startup - Release 1
$ !
$ SHOW TIME
4-APR-2013 14:39:06
$ SET NOVERIFY
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, CONSOLE mounted on _DXA1:
Login quotas - Interactive limit=64, Current interactive value=0
SYSTEM job terminated at 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.49
Accounting information:
Buffered I/O count: 139 Peak working set size: 98
Direct I/O count: 38 Peak virtual size: 110
Page faults: 287 Mounted volumes: 1
Elapsed CPU time: 0 00:00:00.12 Elapsed time: 0 00:00:00.26
Username: SYSTEM
Password:
Welcome to VAX/VMS Version 1.50
$ sh network
NETWORK UNAVAILABLE
What kind of networking could I get working on this? Pre-Phase-IV using a
device SIMH doesn't have emulation support for? ;)
I can upload this disk image if anyone wants it.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
Hello!
I am impressed. What device is this that SIMH does not emulate?
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Afternoon all,
I managed to get this to boot in SIMH with minimal effort. (Started from VMS 3.x and then installed 1.5 with a bunch of devices disabled)
sim> b rp2
Loading boot code from vmb.exe
VAX/VMS Version 1.50 12-APR-1979 09:30
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 04-APR-2013 14:39
OPCOM, 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.22, LOGFILE INITIALIZED, OPERATOR=_OPA0:
$ !
$ ! VAX/VMS system startup - Release 1
$ !
$ SHOW TIME
4-APR-2013 14:39:06
$ SET NOVERIFY
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, CONSOLE mounted on _DXA1:
Login quotas - Interactive limit=64, Current interactive value=0
SYSTEM job terminated at 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.49
Accounting information:
Buffered I/O count: 139 Peak working set size: 98
Direct I/O count: 38 Peak virtual size: 110
Page faults: 287 Mounted volumes: 1
Elapsed CPU time: 0 00:00:00.12 Elapsed time: 0 00:00:00.26
Username: SYSTEM
Password:
Welcome to VAX/VMS Version 1.50
$ sh network
NETWORK UNAVAILABLE
What kind of networking could I get working on this? Pre-Phase-IV using a device SIMH doesn't have emulation support for? ;)
I can upload this disk image if anyone wants it.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
Looks like someone tried and failed (from 8.403). If you want to try again please use a packet sniffer and send me the data.
Thanks
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt Sent: 04 April 2013 06:22 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Who was doing that HECnet mapping work?
I am back online now. SHOW ADJ NODES won t work yet. You may fail to get a connection for SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS, that is my next task to fix.
Regards
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: 04 April 2013 01:35 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Who was doing that HECnet mapping work?
That was me. I haven't touched that code in a while but I should go take a look at it again. It used SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS and SHOW ADJ NODES. Let me know when you're back online and I'll play with that some more. -brian On 4/3/2013 6:55 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
A while ago there was discussion of a program or DCL script that was automating the creation of a map of HECnet. It stumbled when it came to my user mode router because it did not implement NICE. Well, I have been doing some work to rectify that. The work is far from complete, but under the right circumstances and with a fair wind you can get A5RTR to tell you the output of SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS.
Who was doing that work, and which commands needed to be supported for the program/script to work?
Regards
Rob
NB A5RTR is not on HECnet at the moment because I have had a change of IP address and I am waiting for Johnny to tell his bridge to re-read its config.
Someone did though, from 8.403 by the looks of it. If you do try though please use a packet sniffer and send me the data.
Thanks
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: 04 April 2013 19:32 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Who was doing that HECnet mapping work?
Actually, I hadn't tried. :) -brian On 4/4/2013 2:24 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I see you tried and it looks like you failed. I didn t have a packet sniffer running at the time so I can t see the exact reason it failed, but I think I know some things to look at. If you try again could you run a packet sniffer and send me the data?
Thanks
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: 04 April 2013 01:35 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Who was doing that HECnet mapping work?
That was me. I haven't touched that code in a while but I should go take a look at it again. It used SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS and SHOW ADJ NODES. Let me know when you're back online and I'll play with that some more. -brian On 4/3/2013 6:55 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
A while ago there was discussion of a program or DCL script that was automating the creation of a map of HECnet. It stumbled when it came to my user mode router because it did not implement NICE. Well, I have been doing some work to rectify that. The work is far from complete, but under the right circumstances and with a fair wind you can get A5RTR to tell you the output of SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS.
Who was doing that work, and which commands needed to be supported for the program/script to work?
Regards
Rob
NB A5RTR is not on HECnet at the moment because I have had a change of IP address and I am waiting for Johnny to tell his bridge to re-read its config.
Actually, I hadn't tried. :)
-brian
On 4/4/2013 2:24 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I see you tried and it looks like you failed. I didn t have a packet sniffer running at the time so I can t see the exact reason it failed, but I think I know some things to look at. If you try again could you run a packet sniffer and send me the data?
Thanks
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: 04 April 2013 01:35 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Who was doing that HECnet mapping work?
That was me. I haven't touched that code in a while but I should go take a look at it again. It used SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS and SHOW ADJ NODES. Let me know when you're back online and I'll play with that some more. -brian On 4/3/2013 6:55 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
A while ago there was discussion of a program or DCL script that was automating the creation of a map of HECnet. It stumbled when it came to my user mode router because it did not implement NICE. Well, I have been doing some work to rectify that. The work is far from complete, but under the right circumstances and with a fair wind you can get A5RTR to tell you the output of SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS.
Who was doing that work, and which commands needed to be supported for the program/script to work?
Regards
Rob
NB A5RTR is not on HECnet at the moment because I have had a change of IP address and I am waiting for Johnny to tell his bridge to re-read its config.
I see you tried and it looks like you failed. I didn t have a packet sniffer running at the time so I can t see the exact reason it failed, but I think I know some things to look at. If you try again could you run a packet sniffer and send me the data?
Thanks
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: 04 April 2013 01:35 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Who was doing that HECnet mapping work?
That was me. I haven't touched that code in a while but I should go take a look at it again. It used SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS and SHOW ADJ NODES. Let me know when you're back online and I'll play with that some more. -brian On 4/3/2013 6:55 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
A while ago there was discussion of a program or DCL script that was automating the creation of a map of HECnet. It stumbled when it came to my user mode router because it did not implement NICE. Well, I have been doing some work to rectify that. The work is far from complete, but under the right circumstances and with a fair wind you can get A5RTR to tell you the output of SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS.
Who was doing that work, and which commands needed to be supported for the program/script to work?
Regards
Rob
NB A5RTR is not on HECnet at the moment because I have had a change of IP address and I am waiting for Johnny to tell his bridge to re-read its config.
I am back online now. SHOW ADJ NODES won t work yet. You may fail to get a connection for SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS, that is my next task to fix.
Regards
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: 04 April 2013 01:35 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Who was doing that HECnet mapping work?
That was me. I haven't touched that code in a while but I should go take a look at it again. It used SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS and SHOW ADJ NODES. Let me know when you're back online and I'll play with that some more. -brian On 4/3/2013 6:55 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
A while ago there was discussion of a program or DCL script that was automating the creation of a map of HECnet. It stumbled when it came to my user mode router because it did not implement NICE. Well, I have been doing some work to rectify that. The work is far from complete, but under the right circumstances and with a fair wind you can get A5RTR to tell you the output of SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS.
Who was doing that work, and which commands needed to be supported for the program/script to work?
Regards
Rob
NB A5RTR is not on HECnet at the moment because I have had a change of IP address and I am waiting for Johnny to tell his bridge to re-read its config.
That was me.
I haven't touched that code in a while but I should go take a look at it again. It used SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS and SHOW ADJ NODES.
Let me know when you're back online and I'll play with that some more.
-brian
On 4/3/2013 6:55 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
A while ago there was discussion of a program or DCL script that was automating the creation of a map of HECnet. It stumbled when it came to my user mode router because it did not implement NICE. Well, I have been doing some work to rectify that. The work is far from complete, but under the right circumstances and with a fair wind you can get A5RTR to tell you the output of SHOW KNOWN CIRCUITS.
Who was doing that work, and which commands needed to be supported for the program/script to work?
Regards
Rob
NB A5RTR is not on HECnet at the moment because I have had a change of IP address and I am waiting for Johnny to tell his bridge to re-read its config.
