On 03/15/2013 07:36 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Solaris 10 zone. klh10 and some of my VMs need dedicated NICs in
order to function properly with DECnet.
-brian
Get 11 if you can. CrossBow makes this SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier. :)
I'm using a SPARC. Solaris 11 dropped support for UltraSPARC III.
That SUCKS! Ok, carry on as you were. :)
It really does suck. :( The sun fire V480 is a great piece of hardware.
Indeed it is. I hope OpenSXCE gets off the ground in a meaningful way.
It runs great. I talk with the guy (Martin) every now and then. I
believe he's the kind of guy who is motivated by people actually using
his stuff. I say RUN it. (it runs great!) And tell him about it. Thank
him for it. Then he'll continue to make it happen.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:41, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:35 PM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm wrote:
On Friday, March 15, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Historically, if you want your host system to be able to communicate with the guest simh system on most *nix platforms, the simplest way to get that working is to dedicate a NIC to the simh instance and connect it to the same LAN as your host system.
Alternative approaches which were always more complex and not available on all *nix platforms involved the use of tap devices and internal bridging configured on the host system. Doing this has completely different recipes on each platform and possibly on different versions of the same platform. With versions of simh 3.9 and beyond, Windows system can simply share the host systems NIC and also communicate directly with it. Some *nix platforms have support for libvdeplug. These platforms can also be configured to avoid the addition of a dedicated NIC for the simh instance. The 0readme_ethernet.txt file in the simh source distribution describes the known ways which have been used to address this issue on various platforms.
I ask because Solaris 11 (and the Illumos based stuff like OpenIndiana) have support for the new CrossBow network virtualisation.
CrossBow is awesome. I wish it had been back ported.
You create "vnics" and they all share a physical nic in just the way simh needs. It's what I'll be doing.
For example, on my machine I'll be doing the following (once I get rebooted and IDLE works):
dladm create-vnic -l bge1 -v 152 simh1
dladm create-vnic -l bge1 -v 152 simh2
That will create two nics named simh1 and simh2 that simh can use. They will both use and share the physical interface bge1 along with some other stuff. The -v is the VLAN ID. In my setup this interface is a VLAN trunk into the switch and VLAN 152 is my DECnet VLAN.
Ahhh. That's not as fun as using quad-PHY NICs though. ;)
-brian
On 3/15/2013 7:35 PM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm wrote:
On Friday, March 15, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Historically, if you want your host system to be able to communicate with the guest simh system on most *nix platforms, the simplest way to get that working is to dedicate a NIC to the simh instance and connect it to the same LAN as your host system.
Alternative approaches which were always more complex and not available on all *nix platforms involved the use of tap devices and internal bridging configured on the host system. Doing this has completely different recipes on each platform and possibly on different versions of the same platform. With versions of simh 3.9 and beyond, Windows system can simply share the host systems NIC and also communicate directly with it. Some *nix platforms have support for libvdeplug. These platforms can also be configured to avoid the addition of a dedicated NIC for the simh instance. The 0readme_ethernet.txt file in the simh source distribution describes the known ways which have been used to address this issue on various platforms.
I ask because Solaris 11 (and the Illumos based stuff like OpenIndiana) have support for the new CrossBow network virtualization.
You create "vnics" and they all share a physical nic in just the way simh needs. It's what I'll be doing.
For example, on my machine I'll be doing the following (once I get rebooted and IDLE works):
dladm create-vnic -l bge1 -v 152 simh1
dladm create-vnic -l bge1 -v 152 simh2
That will create two nics named simh1 and simh2 that simh can use. They will both use and share the physical interface bge1 along with some other stuff. The -v is the VLAN ID. In my setup this interface is a VLAN trunk into the switch and VLAN 152 is my DECnet VLAN.
-brian
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:36, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:34 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:32, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:30 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:23, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:07, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Solaris 10 zone. klh10 and some of my VMs need dedicated NICs in order to function properly with DECnet.
-brian
Get 11 if you can. CrossBow makes this SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier. :)
I'm using a SPARC. Solaris 11 dropped support for UltraSPARC III.
That SUCKS! Ok, carry on as you were. :)
It really does suck. :( The sun fire V480 is a great piece of hardware.
Indeed it is. I hope OpenSXCE gets off the ground in a meaningful way.
Yeah right now it lacks support for creating zones due to the different package management system.
-brian
On 3/15/2013 7:34 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:32, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:30 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:23, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:07, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Solaris 10 zone. klh10 and some of my VMs need dedicated NICs in order to function properly with DECnet.
-brian
Get 11 if you can. CrossBow makes this SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier. :)
I'm using a SPARC. Solaris 11 dropped support for UltraSPARC III.
That SUCKS! Ok, carry on as you were. :)
It really does suck. :( The sun fire V480 is a great piece of hardware.
Indeed it is. I hope OpenSXCE gets off the ground in a meaningful way.
-brian
On Friday, March 15, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Historically, if you want your host system to be able to communicate with the guest simh system on most *nix platforms, the simplest way to get that working is to dedicate a NIC to the simh instance and connect it to the same LAN as your host system.
Alternative approaches which were always more complex and not available on all *nix platforms involved the use of tap devices and internal bridging configured on the host system. Doing this has completely different recipes on each platform and possibly on different versions of the same platform. With versions of simh 3.9 and beyond, Windows system can simply share the host systems NIC and also communicate directly with it. Some *nix platforms have support for libvdeplug. These platforms can also be configured to avoid the addition of a dedicated NIC for the simh instance. The 0readme_ethernet.txt file in the simh source distribution describes the known ways which have been used to address this issue on various platforms.
- Mark
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:32, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:30 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:23, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:07, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Solaris 10 zone. klh10 and some of my VMs need dedicated NICs in order to function properly with DECnet.
-brian
Get 11 if you can. CrossBow makes this SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier. :)
I'm using a SPARC. Solaris 11 dropped support for UltraSPARC III.
That SUCKS! Ok, carry on as you were. :)
It really does suck. :( The sun fire V480 is a great piece of hardware.
-brian
On 3/15/2013 7:30 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:23, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:07, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Solaris 10 zone. klh10 and some of my VMs need dedicated NICs in order to function properly with DECnet.
-brian
Get 11 if you can. CrossBow makes this SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier. :)
I'm using a SPARC. Solaris 11 dropped support for UltraSPARC III.
That SUCKS! Ok, carry on as you were. :)
-brian
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:23, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:07, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Solaris 10 zone. klh10 and some of my VMs need dedicated NICs in order to function properly with DECnet.
-brian
Get 11 if you can. CrossBow makes this SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier. :)
I'm using a SPARC. Solaris 11 dropped support for UltraSPARC III.
-brian
On 3/15/2013 7:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:07, "Brian Hechinger" <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2013 7:00 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yes! Now to get the NICs working so I can test simh entirely.;)
What do you need NICs for simh? What are you running?
Solaris 10 zone. klh10 and some of my VMs need dedicated NICs in order to function properly with DECnet.
-brian
Get 11 if you can. CrossBow makes this SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier. :)
-brian
