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Cory Smelosky
Sent from a mobile device
On 25 Feb 2013, at 13:58, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
The only good VT100 emulation is a real VT100. ;)
Johnny
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
<mailto:sampsa at mac.com>> wrote:
If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with
happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl
<mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put
together
some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
<Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
<Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
<Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
<Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
<Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
<Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
<Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
<Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
<Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
<Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
<Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
<Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
<Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
<Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
-e telnet <host>
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY
terminal. Some
of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will
depend on
what you are working with.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
Erik
On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
Johnny
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
<mailto:sampsa at mac.com>> wrote:
If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with
happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl
<mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put
together
> some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
> that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
> F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
> correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
>
> xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
> 'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
> <Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
> <Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
> <Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
> <Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
> <Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
> <Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
> <Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
> <Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
> <Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
> <Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
> <Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
> <Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
> <Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
> <Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
> <Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
> <Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
> <Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
> <Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
> <Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
> <Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
> <Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
> <Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
> -e telnet <host>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
>> Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY
terminal. Some
>> of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will
depend on
>> what you are working with.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>>> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
>>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
>>>
>>> Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
>>> for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
>>> DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>
I suspect so. iterm2 has much more complete vtxxx support, extensions, abilities to use different HW etc. - check out the help files. You'll find reprogrammed configs for most every function I have personally looked.
The one complaint about item (first edition) and EDT is described here:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1470855?start=0&tstart=0
But I am under the impression that issue was fixed/supported in iterm2
That said, I don't use EDT on VMS so, I never looked for support for it on my Mac (vi and emacs are more to my liking) - but I know many people that loved EDT and TECO. In the early 1980's one of my co-worked wrote some elisp for emacs so the ex-VMS/EDT guys could move from UNIX. Funny, I remember the groussing at the time, although I don't think I know any of them that continued to use the crutch longer than a few months -- well except for Cantrell (who ended up writing a version of TECO in C see below), after they learned vi/emacs (like me) they went back since those editors are ubiquitous.
Clem
cut/pasted from: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TecoEditor
Paul Cantrell has released a particularly interactive version of TECO called Video TECO. http://videoteco.sourceforge.net/ has source available via CVS. A manual for this version is at http://www.copters.com/teco.html .
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:06, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
> check out http://www.iterm2.com
>
OK so I'm running it - doesn't seem to do that much more than Terminal.app - am I missing something here?
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:06, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
OK so I'm running it - doesn't seem to do that much more than Terminal.app - am I missing something here?
sampsa
Just realised, I don't have a number keypad anyway lol.
Need to buy a cheap USB keyboard later for my larger MBP..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:06, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put together
some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
<Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
<Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
<Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
<Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
<Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
<Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
<Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
<Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
<Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
<Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
<Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
<Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
<Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
<Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
-e telnet <host>
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY terminal. Some
of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will depend on
what you are working with.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
Erik
check out http://www.iterm2.com
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put together
> some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
> that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
> F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
> correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
>
> xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
> 'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
> <Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
> <Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
> <Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
> <Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
> <Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
> <Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
> <Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
> <Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
> <Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
> <Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
> <Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
> <Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
> <Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
> <Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
> <Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
> <Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
> <Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
> <Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
> <Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
> <Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
> <Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
> <Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
> -e telnet <host>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
>> Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY terminal. Some
>> of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will depend on
>> what you are working with.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>>> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
>>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
>>>
>>> Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
>>> for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
>>> DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>
So I'm re-configuring this 1841 to ship it to Ian.
Config is mostly done except for one minor detail.
I can no longer enable and configure DECnet.
Any idea what this would be? This is the router than ran all my DECnet tunnels and it was no problem at all to setup.
Now after a 'wr erase/reload' it will no longer allow me to setup DECnet!
hub#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
hub(config)#dec?
% Unrecognized command
-brian
<back in the thread a bit... just catching up...>
Yeah agreed Sampsa.. I've been [atypically] relaxed with my HECnet systems... exactly for the sake of openness and nostalgia... not that I don't care.. I just don't have time to worry about it with these systems... and its why I don't run `ssh` for example, as doing such is just asking oneself to have to read through an exponential increase in logs...
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Uh, I don't want those guys on HECnet to be honest.
They encourage "security research" and well, I like the open and safe-ish feeling we have right now.
Speaking as an ex-pentester here..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 23 Feb 2013, at 23:40, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
> I've always wondered why the Deathrow cluster isn't on HECnet.
>
> Ian
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 2013-02-23, at 1:37 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Eisner's not on HECnet.
>>
>> But Steve D's setting it up on the HILANT cluster.
>>
>>
>> sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
>> mobile +961 788 10537
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 Feb 2013, at 23:34, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
>>
>>> Eisner runs notes too.
>>> ------Origineel bericht------
>>> Van: Fred
>>> Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>>> Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>>> Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
>>> Verzonden: 23 februari 2013 22:31
>>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Julian Wolfe wrote:
>>>
>>>> I seem to remember a system on HECnet with NOTES installed, and there
>>>> was some kind of conversation going on it.
>>>>
>>>> Is that machine still going?
>>>
>>> That was one of Zane H.'s systems if I recall correctly.
>>>
>>> NOTES is running on MISER:: (and MISER runs 24/7). All I'd need to know
>>> is what conferences folks want me to add.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
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If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put together
some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
<Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
<Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
<Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
<Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
<Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
<Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
<Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
<Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
<Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
<Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
<Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
<Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
<Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
<Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
-e telnet <host>
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY terminal. Some
of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will depend on
what you are working with.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
Erik
