HECnet February 2013

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I'm neither a kid nor a gamer. Perhaps you're confusing the business vs. consumer services? They are quite different; they don't even share a network infrastructure. -Dave On 02/12/2013 12:02 AM, Dan B wrote: they are fast, is a good service for kids and gamers, but no security and big brother attitudes, besids being known to be a front end in the pockets of obscure washington DC moves On 2/11/13, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote: "They're using sophisticated technology to degrade service, which probably costs them a lot of money. It would be better to see them use that money to improve service" So why is anyone (Dave) buying their service? -P -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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BTW, Peter..

by roll＠Stupi.SE

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PDP-11 arch & OS ownership, was Re: [HECnet] NT 4 on AlphaServer es40

by wilson＠dbit.com

From: Brett Bump <bbump at rsts.org> Domain Name:XX2247.ORG Registrant Name:John Wilson Registrant Organization:XX2247 Ah, ha ha ha ha! Ok, John fess up. What is the real scoop? ;-) Actually unrelated! I set that up ages ago for a documentation project that I'm, um, still getting around to. Other than the obvious name, it's nothing to do with the XX2247 which may or may not own the PDP-11 software. (And thanks Dave McGuire for the key in the blurry picture!) John Wilson D Bit

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BTW, Peter..

by dibi58＠gmail.com

@Gregg Levine - Nice photo by the way. Fred (AKA charman miao,) us a really funny guy, one of the best cats we ever had. ;-) On 2/11/13, Dan B <dibi58 at gmail.com> wrote: They are known for letting in warrantless searches on all their customers data, comcast is some sort in a strange position, they have huge debt and they need to have as much help from washingto, wall street and hollywood as they can get, in so they provide some "friendly" ways to make everybody happy, such as hiring politicians family members, foraging politics with extensive lobbying, permitting warrantless monitoring of their customers, blocking protocols that hollywood does not like, et cetera. I'm not an English native speaker either, forgive me for the slang there. On 2/11/13, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote: a front end in the pockets of obscure washington DC moves I'm not a english speaker, please explain. -P

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BTW, Peter..

by dibi58＠gmail.com

They are known for letting in warrantless searches on all their customers data, comcast is some sort in a strange position, they have huge debt and they need to have as much help from washingto, wall street and hollywood as they can get, in so they provide some "friendly" ways to make everybody happy, such as hiring politicians family members, foraging politics with extensive lobbying, permitting warrantless monitoring of their customers, blocking protocols that hollywood does not like, et cetera. I'm not an English native speaker either, forgive me for the slang there. On 2/11/13, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote: a front end in the pockets of obscure washington DC moves I'm not a english speaker, please explain. -P

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BTW, Peter..

by roll＠Stupi.SE

a front end in the pockets of obscure washington DC moves I'm not a english speaker, please explain. -P

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BTW, Peter..

by dibi58＠gmail.com

they are fast, is a good service for kids and gamers, but no security and big brother attitudes, besids being known to be a front end in the pockets of obscure washington DC moves On 2/11/13, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote: "They're using sophisticated technology to degrade service, which probably costs them a lot of money. It would be better to see them use that money to improve service" So why is anyone (Dave) buying their service? -P

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BTW, Peter..

by roll＠Stupi.SE

"They're using sophisticated technology to degrade service, which probably costs them a lot of money. It would be better to see them use that money to improve service" So why is anyone (Dave) buying their service? -P

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BTW, Peter..

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Dan B <dibi58 at gmail.com> wrote: it may not be a hole, comcast is known for filtering what they don't like: from nbc news: "Comcast's approach to traffic shaping is different because of the drastic effect it has on one type of traffic in some cases blocking it rather than slowing it down and the method used, which is difficult to circumvent and involves the company falsifying network traffic" "They're using sophisticated technology to degrade service, which probably costs them a lot of money. It would be better to see them use that money to improve service" On 2/11/13, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote: On 02/11/2013 11:21 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: I tried to send you private mail to roll at stupi.se on January 12th, and it just bounced. I was offering you an OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha CD image. Let me know if you need it. That would be cool. Bouncing mail, that's becouse Comcast don;t tell you they do not provide connectivity to the whole Internet.. And my mail sever is on the part they don't offer you. Last time I checked, it was like this, if someone has an absolutely imperatively important need to run their own mailserver, (mail going in both directions), they needed to make a specific request. And then convince or confuse the offended ISP. I do have that need, and I do run a mail server, and I've made no such request. I'm on a Business class connection, which shares neither bandwidth, nor netblocks with dynamics, nor support staff. (my netblock *used* to be dynamic, but hasn't been used that way for several years) For example, the last time I called them, the *first person who answered the phone* logged into a nameserver and corrected a PTR record for me. (I checked!) Now, the routing issue Peter mentioned...that's a different matter, which I will need to check out. Lots of people and a few companies use my network, and I've not had any issues thus far. I've always despised the "cable company" ISPs, for obvious reasons, but Comcast Business has surprised me by being absolutely top-notch from (my) day one. They just have no connectivity. That's why you have no DECnet tunnel to Stockholm. You should ask them for a discount and use that money to buy services from someone else to fill the Comcast connectivity wholes. -P Hello! Makes very good sense. Thank you Dan B. Nice photo by the way. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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by dibi58＠gmail.com

it may not be a hole, comcast is known for filtering what they don't like: from nbc news: "Comcast's approach to traffic shaping is different because of the drastic effect it has on one type of traffic in some cases blocking it rather than slowing it down and the method used, which is difficult to circumvent and involves the company falsifying network traffic" "They're using sophisticated technology to degrade service, which probably costs them a lot of money. It would be better to see them use that money to improve service" On 2/11/13, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote: On 02/11/2013 11:21 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: I tried to send you private mail to roll at stupi.se on January 12th, and it just bounced. I was offering you an OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha CD image. Let me know if you need it. That would be cool. Bouncing mail, that's becouse Comcast don;t tell you they do not provide connectivity to the whole Internet.. And my mail sever is on the part they don't offer you. Last time I checked, it was like this, if someone has an absolutely imperatively important need to run their own mailserver, (mail going in both directions), they needed to make a specific request. And then convince or confuse the offended ISP. I do have that need, and I do run a mail server, and I've made no such request. I'm on a Business class connection, which shares neither bandwidth, nor netblocks with dynamics, nor support staff. (my netblock *used* to be dynamic, but hasn't been used that way for several years) For example, the last time I called them, the *first person who answered the phone* logged into a nameserver and corrected a PTR record for me. (I checked!) Now, the routing issue Peter mentioned...that's a different matter, which I will need to check out. Lots of people and a few companies use my network, and I've not had any issues thus far. I've always despised the "cable company" ISPs, for obvious reasons, but Comcast Business has surprised me by being absolutely top-notch from (my) day one. They just have no connectivity. That's why you have no DECnet tunnel to Stockholm. You should ask them for a discount and use that money to buy services from someone else to fill the Comcast connectivity wholes. -P

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