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From: DECtec [dectec-bounces at dectec.info] on behalf of Dave McGuire [mcguire at neurotica.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 5:16 PM
To: DEC discussion list.; hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [DECtec] disk loading success
Then, armed with confidence from that success, I dismounted and
unplugged the RA90 from the VAX-7000 and plugged it into a PDP-11/44
(2MB, FPP, CIS, UDA50) and booted it. That worked too! =)
This makes me really want to get my 11/44 working...and get the UDA50 I'm owed.
I'll also need an SDI drive and cable...or 3.
(Now of course I could do the same with a Qbus PDP-11, with a KDA50
SDI controller.)
My first desire was to do the actual RSTS/E install under simh on the
VAX-7000 directly to the raw device, but that crashed for reasons
unknown. Mark Pizzolato told me that it was unlikely to work, so I may
not investigate that any further.
Tonight, I will likely put together a VAX4000-700 in a BA440 chassis
with DSSI drives. Into that I will put a KDA50 (I have an S-box KDA50
distribution panel) and use that in the role of the VAX-7000 for this
type of stuff in the future.
If I could convince you to spare an SDI disk, I could have you write images for me! ;)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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[Please forgive the cross-post...I don't think all of the "social"
people on the HECnet list are actually on the DECtec list (yet). I
believe this to be a general-interest post.]
I just did something cool. I've long been in need of a more
convenient way of loading up system disks for real PDP-11 and VAX
systems, and I've finally come up with one. It's dead simple.
Initially I had wanted to set up a MicroVAX running NetBSD for stuff
like this, but NetBSD/vax has had a lot of problems in more recent
releases, and is becoming rather slow and bloated. (I never thought I'd
see myself say that about NetBSD...I've been running it since v0.9!)
Yesterday I fired up a simh PDP-11 instance, installed RSTS/E v10.1 on
an RA90-sized disk image, and used Linux' DECnet support to copy it over
to my VAX-7000. The VAX-7000 has an HSJ50-based disk subsystem, but it
also has a pair of KDM70 SDI controllers. It is running VMS v7.3.
I plugged an RA90 into the VAX-7000, did a mount/foreign on it, and
copied the disk image over to the raw device. I started up a simh
PDP-11 on the VAX-7000, attached device rq0 to the raw physical RA90
drive, and booted it. It booted and ran normally!
Then, armed with confidence from that success, I dismounted and
unplugged the RA90 from the VAX-7000 and plugged it into a PDP-11/44
(2MB, FPP, CIS, UDA50) and booted it. That worked too! =)
(Now of course I could do the same with a Qbus PDP-11, with a KDA50
SDI controller.)
My first desire was to do the actual RSTS/E install under simh on the
VAX-7000 directly to the raw device, but that crashed for reasons
unknown. Mark Pizzolato told me that it was unlikely to work, so I may
not investigate that any further.
Tonight, I will likely put together a VAX4000-700 in a BA440 chassis
with DSSI drives. Into that I will put a KDA50 (I have an S-box KDA50
distribution panel) and use that in the role of the VAX-7000 for this
type of stuff in the future.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
CHIMPY:: VT100 Tetris Challenge -
THE END IS NIGH!
Just over two more weaks to try to beat our resident Tetris Ninjas,
Mike Holmes and Mark Wickens.
It IS doable, so SET HOST to CHIMPY and log on as TETRIS.
PS: If you DO get a high score, make sure you SCREENSHOT the part where
it asks you to enter your name - then send the screenshot and your details
to tetris100 at sampsa.com, as otherwise I have no IDEA whom to disturbe the
prizes and certificates to. Yes, cash prizes guys AND you'll be a certified
Tetris Ninja.
Does anyone here have an RA90 microcode update cartridge (any version)
that I might be able to acquire or borrow?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Not at the moment. However I'll grant you the right to use those names
for your internal use device names and everything else that is
connected to your end of the network.
Everything on it looks very good to me. I'll probably make use of your
ideas regarding SIMH and one of the DEC systems, probably a PDP-11 but
not the VAX.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I got bored with not doing anything with the recondite-computers.co.uk
domain and decided to turn it into a repository of info about old computers.
I'm copied all the rubbish I've had on my blog about setting up old VAXen
under emulation, along with a little bit about other systems (got more
coming once I edit the old files).
Does anyone else want to contribute anything?
I'll still bung on IP aliases if you want, but under
*.hecnet.recondite-computers.co.uk
Tony.
Hi,
I got bored with not doing anything with the recondite-computers.co.uk domain and decided to turn it into a repository of info about old computers.
I'm copied all the rubbish I've had on my blog about setting up old VAXen under emulation, along with a little bit about other systems (got more coming once I edit the old files).
Does anyone else want to contribute anything?
I'll still bung on IP aliases if you want, but under *.hecnet.recondite-computers.co.uk
Tony.
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Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Michael Holmes
Verzonden: zondag, december 2013 16:44
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: [HECnet] Writing vms boot CDROM
Can someone help me out with instructions on burning a VMS boot CDROM.
When I bought my first alpha, it came with an additional internal drive
with the OpenVMS 7.2 install cd copied to it.
I now have a writable CDROM drive on my Alphaserver 800 and would like to
make a install CDROM of vms 7.2 as a backup in case that old drive fails.
Sadly I've never written a CDROM under VMS (only used tape commands back
in college days).
Anyone know the relevant commands to setup the CDROM and burn it in the
right format for booting vms?
It's not the answer you've asked for, but this will work as well.
Make an image backup of your system disk to an LD device. LD is part of VMS,
perhaps not yet under V7.2. If not then visit www.digiater.nl. LD (and its
tape counterpart LT) are likely the best maintained parts of VMS these day.
Copy the LD device to a pc and burn it with the software you are familiar
with.
Hans
Can someone help me out with instructions on burning a VMS boot CDROM.
When I bought my first alpha, it came with an additional internal drive with the OpenVMS 7.2 install cd copied to it.
I now have a writable CDROM drive on my Alphaserver 800 and would like to make a install CDROM of vms 7.2 as a backup in case that old drive fails.
Sadly I've never written a CDROM under VMS (only used tape commands back in college days).
Anyone know the relevant commands to setup the CDROM and burn it in the right format for booting vms?
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